2025 MSU Football Recruiting Thread

[BankerDog]

Nah, we're going to sign our share of DL instate this year and no, we aren't doing well at other spots either. We aren't spending big money on defense, plain and simple.

Said the same thing last year and looked how that turned out. Simply put-Turner isn?t going to be able to ride guys like he has in the past because of the portal. Simple as that.

[Cooterpoot]

Said the same thing last year and looked how that turned out. Simply put-Turner isn?t going to be able to ride guys like he has in the past because of the portal. Simple as that.

Who did we think we'd get last year with Arnett as HC? There's was no great instate DL last year.

[Cooterpoot]

Because of the portal, NIL, two year attrition rate, and emphasis on offense, I think the days of defensive notoriety are a thing of the past for us. That goes for most P5 teams too. We will get a Dandy Dozen player here and there but nothing like the 2010s. The Georgia's and LSU's will still have defense because of brand and NIL capacity. We will essentially become like an old PAC or BiG 12 team. 55-49. It's time to start embracing it, because if we don't assimilate this way, we'll wish we didn't have to play football in 5 years.

We never beat out those teams for top talent unless we had an in anyway. Little has changed. Those schools will have always recruited above us.

[Bothrops]

We never beat out those teams for top talent unless we had an in anyway. Little has changed. Those schools will have always recruited above us.

Yeah but the difference now is that we won't get more than one of those guys if we're lucky. Used to get 3-4. Im talking defense. The corporate sports world has a grand plan underway. We've seen radical changes made is just a few short years. We aren't even an afterthought. All tradition is going out the window.

[Cooterpoot]

Yeah but the difference now is that we won't get more than one of those guys if we're lucky. Used to get 3-4. Im talking defense. The corporate sports world has a grand plan underway. We've seen radical changes made is just a few short years. We aren't even an afterthought. All tradition is going out the window.

Nah, they still recruit above the guys we recruit. There's no DL in MS that UGA wants this year. We'll get our share. It's no different than it's been except more kids want out of MS. Holding on to OOS kids we sign if they have a good season is a much bigger problem.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Who did we think we'd get last year with Arnett as HC? There's was no great instate DL last year.

We were all told how Turner was going to sell DLU and get at least 1 of Beavers, Rush, Echoles, Franklin, and Waller. We went 0-5. Add that to striking out repeatedly in the portal and it is safe and warranted to wonder if Turner is more hindrance than weapon in recruiting.

[Cooterpoot]

We were all told how Turner was going to sell DLU and get at least 1 of Beavers, Rush, Echoles, Franklin, and Waller. We went 0-5. Add that to striking out repeatedly in the portal and it is safe and warranted to wonder if Turner is more hindrance than weapon in recruiting.

1. Beavers wasn't even a take. The kid isn't good and has had legal issues too. Wasn't even one of the top couple players on a 2A team really.
2. We never recruited Rush at all. We don't think much of him.
3. Franklin was an overpayment for a decent player. We were never going to do that.
4. Waller's handler is the same handler as a couple other recruits who went OOS. Waller is a tweener. I'd bet all of those like him end up in the portal

You know who 17'd up our recruiting? Leach and Arnett did it. Then we brought in a bunch of defensive coaches with no track record at all and a full rebuild staring at us. We'll start investing in defense more later.

[BankerDog]

1. Beavers wasn't even a take. The kid isn't good and has had legal issues too. Wasn't even one of the top couple players on a 2A team really.
2. We never recruited Rush at all. We don't think much of him.
3. Franklin was an overpayment for a decent player. We were never going to do that.
4. Waller's handler is the same handler as a couple other recruits who went OOS. Waller is a tweener. I'd bet all of those like him end up in the portal

You know who 17'd up our recruiting? Leach and Arnett did it. Then we brought in a bunch of defensive coaches with no track record at all and a full rebuild staring at us. We'll start investing in defense more later.

You stated in a post on 3/29/23 ?that if Beavers doesn?t go to AL we get him. Secondly, Emerick screwed up Picayune so don?t expect kids from there.? And now you?re saying Beavers wasn?t a take? So which is it?

Also your comments our defensive stats are a little off base. Hutzler has been at Bama, Barnes was a DC at Ohio State and Memphis, and Turner we know. So hardly a ?staff with no track record? like you?re stating. But that?s par the course, just run off at the mouth and hope it sticks.

[StarkVegasSteve]

1. Beavers wasn't even a take. The kid isn't good and has had legal issues too. Wasn't even one of the top couple players on a 2A team really.
2. We never recruited Rush at all. We don't think much of him.
3. Franklin was an overpayment for a decent player. We were never going to do that.
4. Waller's handler is the same handler as a couple other recruits who went OOS. Waller is a tweener. I'd bet all of those like him end up in the portal

You know who 17'd up our recruiting? Leach and Arnett did it. Then we brought in a bunch of defensive coaches with no track record at all and a full rebuild staring at us. We'll start investing in defense more later.

Then why did you say last year that the 24 recruiting class was a strong defensive class? Also you failed to answer how we miss on Echoles…..from Houston.

[Cooterpoot]

You stated in a post on 3/29/23 ?that if Beavers doesn?t go to AL we get him. Secondly, Emerick screwed up Picayune so don?t expect kids from there.? And now you?re saying Beavers wasn?t a take? So which is it?

Also your comments our defensive stats are a little off base. Hutzler has been at Bama, Barnes was a DC at Ohio State and Memphis, and Turner we know. So hardly a ?staff with no track record? like you?re stating. But that?s par the course, just run off at the mouth and hope it sticks.

And we dropped him, what's the question?

[Cooterpoot]

You stated in a post on 3/29/23 ?that if Beavers doesn?t go to AL we get him. Secondly, Emerick screwed up Picayune so don?t expect kids from there.? And now you?re saying Beavers wasn?t a take? So which is it?

Also your comments our defensive stats are a little off base. Hutzler has been at Bama, Barnes was a DC at Ohio State and Memphis, and Turner we know. So hardly a ?staff with no track record? like you?re stating. But that?s par the course, just run off at the mouth and hope it sticks.

Nobody knows those guys. Hutz has never called defense at a P5 school. Barnes was runoff and only an interim DC at OSU. Memphis wasnt going to keep him. But carry on.

[Cooterpoot]

Then why did you say last year that the 24 recruiting class was a strong defensive class? Also you failed to answer how we miss on Echoles?..from Houston.

Because it initially looked that way. But it became apparent how weak it was last fall, when committable offers didn't materialize for those guys (minus two guys). I'd take two of the guys that were mentioned, but I don't think either will be big difference makers. This year isn't strong either really. Lots of serviceable DL but no real studs.

[Cooterpoot]

Then why did you say last year that the 24 recruiting class was a strong defensive class? Also you failed to answer how we miss on Echoles…..from Houston.

Echoles we just lost but we weren't recruiting him as a DL either

[Bothrops]

We got outbid on most of those DL guys. Echoles we wanted on the OL initially. That kid from Picyune has high potential. We didn't have to legs to interest him.

[Cooterpoot]

We got outbid on most of those DL guys. Echoles we wanted on the OL initially. That kid from Picyune has high potential. We didn't have to legs to interest him.

Except we didn't. We were never getting the kid at Picayune. He had no interest and we pissed off the handler the year before. That handler is sending all his kids OOS. Beavers wasn't a take and neither was Rush. We never really got into bidding for Franklin because he wanted stupid money and frankly wasn't worth it. Echoes was just a loss plain and simple but he had family at OM and a higher bid.