Should Kentucky hold on to win the SEC title these 2 weekends

[Coach34]

See it's tricky. Just from a football lense, I consider Dan Marino to be one of the best QBs of all time. Yet, he didn't win a Super Bowl. Now does that mean I have to consider someone like Trent Dilfer or Mark Rypien to be better than Dan Marino just because they won a SB? Rypien may have been a bad example because he actually had a decent 3-4 year run. But you could throw Nick Foles in there.

and that is a very valid argument

[StarkVegasSteve]

and that is a very valid argument

I think it's like you said. His legacy definitely takes a hit due to no titles. He's safely in the second tier with guys like DVH, Bianco, Mike Martin, Wayne Graham, etc. I think you have the 1A tier with Dedeaux, Bertman, and Garrido. Then you have the 1B tier with Ron Fraser, Pat Casey, Tim Corbin, Cliff Gustafson, Mark Marquess, Jim Brock, etc.

[Commercecomet24]

I think it's like you said. His legacy definitely takes a hit due to no titles. He's safely in the second tier with guys like DVH, Bianco, Mike Martin, Wayne Graham, etc. I think you have the 1A tier with Dedeaux, Bertman, and Garrido. Then you have the 1B tier with Ron Fraser, Pat Casey, Tim Corbin, Cliff Gustafson, Mark Marquess, Jim Brock, etc.

I agree, he's definitely in the top 15-20 of all time. Might add Bobby Winkles to your list he won 3 titles at ASU before Jim Brock. Very good list though!

[StarkVegasSteve]

I agree, he's definitely in the top 15-20 of all time. Might add Bobby Winkles to your list he won 3 titles at ASU before Jim Brock. Very good list though!

It just sucks for Polk because he very easily could be in that 1B tier and knocking on the 1A door. We were the best team in the country in 85 and 89 and you could make an argument we were as good in 84 as we were in 85. That would've been 3 in 6 year stretch. That would've cemented him because he could've had 3 before Bertman had 1