Coach 34

[Coach34]

A/C has kept people inside. I?m only 42 but I don?t remember being this hot for this many consecutive days. I live in south Louisiana now and it?s been about 3 weeks since the high temp was less than 100

I can.

https://climatespy.com/climate/summa...fb/august/2011

It's so funny to me people think the world is getting hotter. The Climate Change grift politicians push to make money is working apparently. I still remember the 1970's when the media was telling us another Ice Age was coming

[Coach34]

And I think that this has a lot to do with the obesity epidemic that we are seeing right now. Folks are now sitting inside in the AC and comfortable and the coolness makes it acceptable to eat more. When it is really hot and you have to brave the heat no one wants to eat too much and suffer.

Yes- this is the answer.

I have 3 brothers on my team. Sr/Jr/Frosh. The Sr/Frosh give the Jr absolute hell because he is so lazy. They talk about how a couple of weeks during the summer- he never stepped outside of the house even once. For an entire week. And this kid will line up Friday and play in the trenches on artificial turf. Why? Because we dont have anybody else above the 9th grade to replace him with

[coachnorm]

A/C has kept people inside. I?m only 42 but I don?t remember being this hot for this many consecutive days. I live in south Louisiana now and it?s been about 3 weeks since the high temp was less than 100

Many good inputs from elietedoggers but on thing that I have stated is being filtered out of the discussion and I wish to hear about it from my fellow posters. The quality high school football programs have year round conditioning for those not active in other sports. If a year round conditioned football player puts the brakes on participation during extreme heat, it is no big deal, he has maxed out his potential. Believe it or not, some high school football players competing for positions at upper tiered programs, in America, have to be forced out of the conditioning room because they fear the depth chart.

Now if you have high school football teams with limited participation or motivation, that is a different story.

[parabrave]

Year round conditioning is one thing. But being outside and getting "used to the heat" is another. Doing squats all year in air conditioning is great but hitting the blocking sled for an hour in August is another. I remember and you might also that when we played the country teams I've never been hit so hard. All these boys did in the summer was work the field baling hay and help daddy roof houses or pour concrete slabs/ And just to add to that with the schools going year round there will be no more summer jobs "baling hay" or and chances for boys to be working outside so I hope all schools have the resources to afford big weight sets because that will be the only chance they have to develop/

[BigDawg81]

I can.

https://climatespy.com/climate/summa...fb/august/2011

It's so funny to me people think the world is getting hotter. The Climate Change grift politicians push to make money is working apparently. I still remember the 1970's when the media was telling us another Ice Age was coming

It?s crazy you brought up people listening politicians when you are the only one that brought up politics.

[99jc]

I can.

https://climatespy.com/climate/summa...fb/august/2011

It's so funny to me people think the world is getting hotter. The Climate Change grift politicians push to make money is working apparently. I still remember the 1970's when the media was telling us another Ice Age was coming

no it is not getting hotter, the oceans are only 4 degrees warmer than normal. the polar caps are melting, and sea creatures are dying by the millions due to the increased water temp. come on man!

[Pancho]

A dude can still go visit plymouth rock and the water ain't moved a lick since them pilgrims landed. this is hard for some to understand. My uncles family has had a spot in key west since 55 and the have more shore now than was there in the 60's. weird since the agua supposed to have the place covered by now..............

[Coach34]

no it is not getting hotter, the oceans are only 4 degrees warmer than normal. the polar caps are melting, and sea creatures are dying by the millions due to the increased water temp. come on man!

https://www.epa.gov/climate-indicato...ce-temperature

See- this is where people go off the reservation. The oceans are 1.5 degrees warmer than it was 120 years ago

[tcdog70]

Bunch of wimps, I'm 73 and ride my bike 4 times a week 25 miles around two hours. It's who I am and not bad with a wind breeze riding. LOL
I'm an ex coach who played all sports, hell we didn't have a/c till I was bout 12 or 13, played outside and my mother would leave water on back porch and tell me and friends don't come in house to mess it up after she mopped the floor. LMBO but true. U guys keep moving and stay healthy.

Salt tablets-no water --practiced at 9 in morning and 2 in afternoon. people find it hard to believe no AC till a teenager. Then just in 1 room. as a kid left house in morning -came back for a pineapple and mayo sandwich then gone till supper.

[tcdog70]

You have a valid observation. I played high school football in the 1960s and started coaching my son in youth football in 1979. Also, I have coached high school football for almost 20 years in addition to coaching JUCO ball also. I have attended uncountable football practices and can declare some differences in current HS Football practices compared to the past.

Many decades ago, there were no bye weeks in a HS Football schedule so that extension of season did not exists. Many decades ago, there were less play off games to extend the HS Football schedule also. If you remove the bye weeks and the scrub teams participating in play offs there is no need to start the practices earlier in the summer.

Then there is the tradeoff of non-play-off teams turning in gear in the first week of November after game 10. All of this is to get more HS Football gate money and television revenue. BTW HS Football is a huge television revenue source in Los Angeles.

In the 1960s NFL linemen were about 270 lbs. and a 235 lbs. high school lineman was considered large for that time period. There is a profound difference between a 250 lbs. lineman and a 320 lbs. lineman at the high school level. In many cases, if that 320 lbs. lineman exerts the same energy as the 250 lbs. lineman, there could be a tragedy on the football field.

Also, you brought up 2 a days. 2 a days were used to get players fit to play ball because they took the summer off. In the 2020s many high school football players are in the weight room at 6AM during the off season. There is absolutely no reason to attempt to condition athletes already in shape because of year-round conditioning. Excessive attempts to condition already trained athletes can cause physical fatigue on a high school football player. This will enhance the possibility of injuries towards the end of the season or the play-offs. This was not the case decades ago.

when HS football allowed OL to use their hands (hold) the the weights increased. fat boys could not pull and block with their shoulders.

[ScoobaDawg]

Let's keep the politics out.... Global, warming or not... It's Damn hot and yes kids arent as conditioned to it as they used to be. Those are facts.

[basedog]

Salt tablets-no water --practiced at 9 in morning and 2 in afternoon. people find it hard to believe no AC till a teenager. Then just in 1 room. as a kid left house in morning -came back for a pineapple and mayo sandwich then gone till supper.

Yep same here. Also folks think athletes were so much better now days which many are but back in our day toughness was required. No such thing as roughing the passer, crack back blocking allowed, blocking below the waist allowed (or knees), no running out of bounds and I could go on like playing both ways on offense and defense.
Can't tell how many times I was tackled with spearing and piling on. LOL but so true. Crazy times, not only no water at practice.
Very little to no weight training, we trained working summer jobs such as cutting grass with sling blade for the county and such.
My youngest daughter is a nurse, she says I'm too old to be riding 25 miles in this heat. I just laugh as I know my body signs pretty well. Good moving is important.

[Commercecomet24]

Yep same here. Also folks thing athletes were so much better now days which many are but back in our day toughness was required. No such thing as roughing the passer, crack back blocking allowed, blocking below the waist allowed (or knees), no running out of bounds and I could go on like playing both ways on offense and defense.
Can't tell how many times I was tackled with spearing and biking on. LOL but so true. Crazy times, not only no water at practice.
Very little to no weight training, we trained working summer jobs such as cutting grass with sling blade for the county and such.
My youngest daughter is a nurse, she says I'm too old to be riding 25 miles in this heat. I just laugh as I know my body signs pretty well. Good moving is important.

Base speaks 100% truth. My grandfather worked his farm almost up until the day he died, in all seasons. That old man wore the same clothes everyday winter or summer, thick Dickies work shirt, overalls, a wide brimmed straw hat and boots. He worked out in the heat well into his 70s because he was conditioned to take that heat. He'd work from sun up until sun down and then go coonhunting at night. I guarantee you not one high school athlete in this country would last 15 minutes with him working out on the farm during the summer. I used to work with him every summer. He taught me a lot about how to handle weather, hot or cold and i'm grateful for him teaching the "old ways". I miss him.

[Coach34]

My father's teams used to be in such good shape back in the 70's/80's. That 2 weeks of practice before school started were brutal. Same every year

Practiced from 4:30 to 8 (took a 10-15 minute break in the middle and then had kicker's/punters/Specialists work to let everyone get recharge). But he did focus on hydrating at practice. Was not one of the "anti-water" coaches

Then the dreaded 7:15 time would hit. Time to condition. bear crawls/sprints or push the sled/Mile for time. Just brutal. Had guys quit during this 2 week time every year but I will say this- his teams never had anybody cramping up early in the season. Won games in the 2nd half simply being in better shape. If we did that today we wouldnt keep more than 20 players

[parabrave]

Yep same here. Also folks think athletes were so much better now days which many are but back in our day toughness was required. No such thing as roughing the passer, crack back blocking allowed, blocking below the waist allowed (or knees), no running out of bounds and I could go on like playing both ways on offense and defense.
Can't tell how many times I was tackled with spearing and piling on. LOL but so true. Crazy times, not only no water at practice.
Very little to no weight training, we trained working summer jobs such as cutting grass with sling blade for the county and such.
My youngest daughter is a nurse, she says I'm too old to be riding 25 miles in this heat. I just laugh as I know my body signs pretty well. Good moving is important.

Also back in the day we took salt tabs before practice. Blocking sleds for 1 hour and the good ole bull in the ring. Then the last 30 mins were 40 yd wind sprints. Talk about roughing the passer I played against Reggie Collier and everyone knew he had a weak collarbone. Think I and everyone else hit that shoulder after every play. And they still beat the crap out of us. Gene Lang had a Sprained ankle and yep that got twisted in the dog pile.

[Goldendawg]

Graduated HS in 1973. We often practiced with our sleds on the dirt parking lot sprinkled with gravel adjacent to the stadium in early or mid-August. I don't remember very many water breaks in those days. I broke my foot running wind sprints and HC accused me of dogging it, (140 lb TE/WR/DE and painful to attempt to push off from stance). Finally convinced him when I showed up in cast after 2nd xray at 2nd clinic, stress fracture. I was out 6 games. Played against Larry Gillard and his 230 or so lbs in those years and we became friends through MSU years. Great player and person. We went both ways in games as we didn't even have 22 players to practice. We were terrible that year (1-9) and it seemed like it was Homecoming every time we played on the road, but we saw a lot of Corvettes and pretty girls in evening gowns at halftime!*****

[TrapGame]

I remember starting 1st grade week of Labor Day 1977. Elvis died and my mom was crying in the kitchen. It wasn't until the mid 80's that we started the week before Labor Day. No AC in school until I hit high school in 1985. All the rooms in junior high had the big box fans going. Sounded like a wind tunnel.

[Commercecomet24]

My father's teams used to be in such good shape back in the 70's/80's. That 2 weeks of practice before school started were brutal. Same every year

Practiced from 4:30 to 8 (took a 10-15 minute break in the middle and then had kicker's/punters/Specialists work to let everyone get recharge). But he did focus on hydrating at practice. Was not one of the "anti-water" coaches

Then the dreaded 7:15 time would hit. Time to condition. bear crawls/sprints or push the sled/Mile for time. Just brutal. Had guys quit during this 2 week time every year but I will say this- his teams never had anybody cramping up early in the season. Won games in the 2nd half simply being in better shape. If we did that today we wouldnt keep more than 20 players

Amazing how times have changed! Coach I think you're overestimating on that 20 number. I don't think you'd have anyone left, lol!

[Coach34]

I remember starting 1st grade week of Labor Day 1977. Elvis died and my mom was crying in the kitchen. It wasn't until the mid 80's that we started the week before Labor Day. No AC in school until I hit high school in 1985. All the rooms in junior high had the big box fans going. Sounded like a wind tunnel.

I have figured out the problem- private schools started before public schools in the old days. Private schools started the first Monday of August and public schools started later because of kids riding buses and other reasons.

http://www.ahsfhs.org/mississippi/Te...ttan%20Academy

http://www.ahsfhs.org/mississippi/te...am=Hattiesburg

[TrapGame]

I have figured out the problem- private schools started before public schools in the old days. Private schools started the first Monday of August and public schools started later because of kids riding buses and other reasons.

http://www.ahsfhs.org/mississippi/Te...ttan%20Academy

http://www.ahsfhs.org/mississippi/te...am=Hattiesburg

Makes sense.