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Originally Posted by
Cooterpoot
He's not killed it this year against midweek P5 pitching. And he's also not as good as Ledbetter. That league is bad. USM isn't even strong this year and they're leading.
You are right, good move by Lemonis cutting Lewis. **
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Originally Posted by
Pancho
don't go wild when someone makes an opinionated statement. Lewis might end up a portal guy to the SEC and he'll be drafted as well. I don't for one second trust any player eval done by Lemo now.
That's the damn truth as far as pitching goes for sure.....
"The QB and the receiver weren't on the same page there, but hey its only week eleven". (Jack Cristil)
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Originally Posted by
Pancho
he's as good as ledbetter.
Ummmmm Ledbetter is about to go top 2 rounds. Care to take that statement back???
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Originally Posted by
HoopsDawg
You are right, good move by Lemonis cutting Lewis. **
Again, you can't butch all you want about lem but he did the right thing at the time. Not like Lewis had any big offers out of juco. He didn't look like a guy that would ever play here. Still might not have. It was a good call at present and he would have never been here to find out.
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Originally Posted by
Pancho
don't go wild when someone makes an opinionated statement. Lewis might end up a portal guy to the SEC and he'll be drafted as well. I don't for one second trust any player eval done by Lemo now.
Dubrule? Yeager??? Ring a bell....
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Originally Posted by
Saltydog
That's the damn truth as far as pitching goes for sure.....
To be fair, kids grow and develop. Two years is time enough for big gains.
I recall reading a scouting report on Lewis. He was mostly a football player at Vicksburg. He became full time baseball, rather late. Then there was an injury while in HS and was not really super productive in HS. Usually MSU recruits are 450 hitters in HS with reigning triple-crown type numbers. Looks like Lemons saw trough the stats and gave him a chance at MSU.
Probably, he needed to play a lot of baseball to make up for lost time and development. He got that development time at Chipola and now Troy.
In Fall 2021, when this decision was likely made, MSU was a consensus top-10 team, some thought #1 heading into the season. MSU had players that expected to be All-SEC candidates in the positions that Lewis could play. Corner OF had Kellum Clark and Brad Cumbest with Hines as DH. The mistake could be getting Jess Davis, Matt Corder, and Keeping Brayland Skinner for OF spots. In retrospect, those guys had a collective 150 terrible and unproductive at-bats that could have been invested in Lewis with Cumbest playing CF.
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Originally Posted by
Homedawg
Again, you can't butch all you want about lem but he did the right thing at the time. Not like Lewis had any big offers out of juco. He didn't look like a guy that would ever play here. Still might not have. It was a good call at present and he would have never been here to find out.
Neither did Brent Rooker.
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Originally Posted by
The Federalist Engineer
To be fair, kids grow and develop. Two years is time enough for big gains.
I recall reading a scouting report on Lewis. He was mostly a football player at Vicksburg. He became full time baseball, rather late. Then there was an injury while in HS and was not really super productive in HS. Usually MSU recruits are 450 hitters in HS with reigning triple-crown type numbers. Looks like Lemons saw trough the stats and gave him a chance at MSU.
Probably, he needed to play a lot of baseball to make up for lost time and development. He got that development time at Chipola and now Troy.
In Fall 2021, when this decision was likely made, MSU was a consensus top-10 team, some thought #1 heading into the season. MSU had players that expected to be All-SEC candidates in the positions that Lewis could play. Corner OF had Kellum Clark and Brad Cumbest with Hines as DH. The mistake could be getting Jess Davis, Matt Corder, and Keeping Brayland Skinner for OF spots. In retrospect, those guys had a collective 150 terrible and unproductive at-bats that could have been invested in Lewis with Cumbest playing CF.
Excellent post.
When a player is asked to move on it's typically so that they can get an opportunity to play the vast majority of the time.
I'm sure we have a few Tanner Leggett's that just want to play for MSU and don't care about playing time but for a lot of guys being on the team for a year or two fulfills the MSU dream and then they can go to Troy or wherever and play.
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Originally Posted by
HoopsDawg
Neither did Brent Rooker.
Brent rooker didn't leave here and go to juco. But had he, he would have had a ton of p5 offers. Lewis didn't
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Originally Posted by
Homedawg
Ummmmm Ledbetter is about to go top 2 rounds. Care to take that statement back???
be careful. you are making my point now******
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Originally Posted by
Pancho
be careful. you are making my point now******
How? Lewis wasn't playing if Ledbetter Clark or Dakota. Again, nobody wanted him out of juco. He's a Troy. He isn't going in the second round. We did the right thing. Congrats he ms a had a good year and good luck to him.
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Well to be fair Lemonis didn?t know how bad a job he had done evaluating the players he kept over Lewis. Now you can blame Lemonis for bad recruiting, bad evaluating, bad in game management, bad pitching, bad fielding, woefully inconsistent hitting, poor catching, bad breath and bad deodorant, but you cannot blame the guy for making sure he met the Roster Limit by encouraging guys to go where they could get better coaching.
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