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    Arian Foster

    If you are Texans management, would you look to shop him for picks or players. Texans just lost 14 straight, they need more help than Foster can give them.

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    I don't know as much about NFL roster management and business like I do MLB but if they could get 2-3 high draft picks, I think they should do it.

    No one is going to do a Herschel Walker trade ever again, and Al Davis is dead- so no one is going to do anything crazy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    I don't know as much about NFL roster management and business like I do MLB but if they could get 2-3 high draft picks, I think they should do it.

    No one is going to do a Herschel Walker trade ever again, and Al Davis is dead- so no one is going to do anything crazy.

    No to quibble too much, but Jerry Jones is still alive. So, there's that.

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    Absolutely.

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    Running backs in general do not merit high draft picks. Especially ones with as many carries and lengthy injury history as Foster

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    What about Andre Johnson. You trade him too huh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Schmedlap View Post
    No to quibble too much, but Jerry Jones is still alive. So, there's that.
    Nailed it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by civildawg View Post
    What about Andre Johnson. You trade him too huh?
    Yep, the Eagles would probably take him to complement Jackson.

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    I don't know what happened to the Texans this year. They won the AFC South and won a playoff game last season. I think Foster is too important to deal. They will have a coaching change, but they have talent on the team. If I were the GM i would start to think about trying to get another big time WR to take some pressure off of Andre Johnson, and eventually take his place. Mike Evans would be a good fit. They also need a QB, and that is the route they will probably take with the #1 pick. I think it will be Bridgewater.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE Bruce Dickinson View Post
    I don't know what happened to the Texans this year. They won the AFC South and won a playoff game last season. I think Foster is too important to deal. They will have a coaching change, but they have talent on the team. If I were the GM i would start to think about trying to get another big time WR to take some pressure off of Andre Johnson, and eventually take his place. Mike Evans would be a good fit. They also need a QB, and that is the route they will probably take with the #1 pick. I think it will be Bridgewater.
    DeAndre Hopkins has been a badass at WR for Houston this year. It wouldn't hurt them to take another one, but they need help at QB, OL, LB, and S a whole lot more. If I were them, I'd try to trade down from #1, as Clowney is probably the consensus pick there. Get extra picks, try to grab Tajh Boyd mid-1st round.
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    Rumor is that Peyton Manning had Houston as his preferred landing spot and Kubiak wanted Schaub instead. Once that shit made its way into the locker room on top of Schaub's 6 straight pick 6 games the Texans just totally collapsed. JFF headed to Houston next year?

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    Quote Originally Posted by War Machine Dawg View Post
    DeAndre Hopkins has been a badass at WR for Houston this year. It wouldn't hurt them to take another one, but they need help at QB, OL, LB, and S a whole lot more. If I were them, I'd try to trade down from #1, as Clowney is probably the consensus pick there. Get extra picks, try to grab Tajh Boyd mid-1st round.
    I don't disagree with you there. They could trade their pick, and probably address more needs than a single #1 pick could. I dont think Tajh is a good fit there though.

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    I know most won't agree with me but if I'm Houston and I've got the #1 pick I'm drafting the home state hero John Football. Dude will be electric for 5 years and will make them a ton of money. I said the exact same thing about Carolina taking Cam Newton #1 and nobody agreed with me. Looks like a homerun pick by the Panthers now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawg61 View Post
    I know most won't agree with me but if I'm Houston and I've got the #1 pick I'm drafting the home state hero John Football. Dude will be electric for 5 years and will make them a ton of money. I said the exact same thing about Carolina taking Cam Newton #1 and nobody agreed with me. Looks like a homerun pick by the Panthers now.
    I personally think that is a really bad idea. Yes he will sell some tickets, but JFF is more like RGIII than Cam. He won't last the season scrambling around like he does (especially with a crappy O line). The Texans new toy would be broken after 2 seasons- max.

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    Manziel is smarter and tougher than most and he'll know to protect himself because it will be said to him about a billion times starting a minute after he gets drafted.

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    1) Tate had similar #'s in relief, which discredits Foster's success to a degree. Not saying Foster isn't great, but every GM is going to point to that in negotiations and say "Meh, we'll give you a 5th round pick."
    2) Backs aren't worth anything. Washington, Tampa, NYJ, and several other teams have young late round picks getting 1,000 yards. The Saints picked up a kid from West Texas A&M who has been beating out a Heisman winner for PT.
    3) Trent Richardson. Holy hell. If that didn't scare anyone from making a trade for a RB using valuable assets I don't know what would.

    The NFL isn't a trade league. The Texans desperately need a QB, and the only way to get one of those these days is to draft one or hope one breaks his neck, decides not to retire, or has a career ending shoulder injury that in turn actually has one of those Rookie of the Year effects on his throwing motion.

    Other than AP I don't know of any RB's that actually make a difference vs their backups nowadays.
    Last edited by esplanade91; 12-30-2013 at 01:25 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by esplanade91 View Post
    Other than AP I don't know of any RB's that actually make a difference vs their backups nowadays.
    Jamaal Charles, LeSean McCoy, Eddie Lacy, Marshawn Lynch, Frank Gore, Reggie Bush are RBs every team wants. Charles scored 5 tds 3 weeks ago.

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    Of course. But there's AP.............................................. then everyone else. Lynch is my #2, and the difference between AP and Lynch is a mile. I'm exaggerating a bit about starters vs backups, but not by much.

    I'm sure that not every team would be lining up to have Eddie Lacy behind all the guys you mentioned though. Alfred Morris, Doug Martin, Matt Forte, DeMarco Murray, Steven Jackson, Fred Jackson > Lacy. Reggie Bush can kick rocks.
    Last edited by esplanade91; 12-30-2013 at 01:51 AM.

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    Lacy is a beast. I'd take him over all those guys. 1200 yards this year with missing 2 games from a concussion. Ask the Packers how valuable Lacy was when Rodgers was out. Steven Jackson was a total bust this year and Fred Jackson was Spillers backup the first 6 games or so. Jamaal Charles and LeSean McCoy had better years than AP this year.

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    I am sure people told RGIII and Mike Vick the same thing too, but it didn't help.

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