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It?s a pretty direct representation of what we have allowed our society to become. You bend and you give and you cower down till there is nothing left.
There is no other business or system anywhere in the world where you are asked to donate your money for no return, no choice where it goes, who gets it or how much. And then whoever does get it can jump up and leave one day and take the money with him and go steal from someone else.
They deserve to get paid, but the thing is they already were.
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Originally Posted by
BuckyIsAB****
It?s a pretty direct representation of what we have allowed our society to become. You bend and you give and you cower down till there is nothing left.
There is no other business or system anywhere in the world where you are asked to donate your money for no return, no choice where it goes, who gets it or how much. And then whoever does get it can jump up and leave one day and take the money with him and go steal from someone else.
They deserve to get paid, but the thing is they already were.
They were paid but not to this extent. Contracts need to be made. And if they jump and leave for more money, then they can pay some of that money back from where they left. This crap is just insane and I agree with all you said.
Edit: They deserve a true NIL, not pay for play.
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Originally Posted by
BuckyIsAB****
It?s a pretty direct representation of what we have allowed our society to become. You bend and you give and you cower down till there is nothing left.
There is no other business or system anywhere in the world where you are asked to donate your money for no return, no choice where it goes, who gets it or how much. And then whoever does get it can jump up and leave one day and take the money with him and go steal from someone else.
They deserve to get paid, but the thing is they already were.
Dam I'm actually agreeing with BAB/ Also to add The schools are the one making money off of a kids NIL/ We the fans are not. Why should we pay and not the schools??
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Originally Posted by
parabrave
Dam I'm actually agreeing with BAB/ Also to add The schools are the one making money off of a kids NIL/ We the fans are not. Why should we pay and not the schools??
Yes. Pay them through tv money.
Last edited by Maroonthirteen; 11-30-2023 at 11:04 PM.
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The best part to me is the NCAA and schools agree they need to get paid - just not from their money.
This is still a scam. The NcAA just kept the athletes away from their money and sicked them on us.
The good news is capitalism will workout out.
Soon backup NFL QBs will want to go back to school , take grad classes and play QB at Bama?s
They?ll make more.
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Originally Posted by
Catfish
Can't rely on the NCAA to fix this. Everything they touch turns to crap.
Who would you have fix it? Congress? Everything they touch forms to a pile of crap the size of T-rex poo. At least if the NCAA regulates it, the big schools can either break away or reform it. If Congress does it, it's untouchable trash forever.
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Originally Posted by
War Machine Dawg
Who would you have fix it? Congress? Everything they touch forms to a pile of crap the size of T-rex poo. At least if the NCAA regulates it, the big schools can either break away or reform it. If Congress does it, it's untouchable trash forever.
Maybe so, but the players need to pay taxes on this money and right now they don't. If you earn a million per year you land in the highest tax bracket. Let a 19 year old try to figure how he is going to pay $350,000 tax after he buys a home and a Maserati.
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Originally Posted by
Jarius
If you are a good player and you aren’t hitting the portal you are doing it wrong, and that’s ridiculous to say but it’s true. That being said, Ole Miss would have been 10-2 with or without Judkins this year. Paying him as much as they do is stupid. Paying any tailback that much is stupid. It’s a replaceable position.
Ding ding ding. First and foremost, get a QB. If we are going to spend 5 million, then I am perfectly fine spending 2 on a dynamic qb like a Dart. Pittman and Davis can handle RB.
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Duke is absolutely getting decimated by the portal once Elko left.
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Originally Posted by
CaptainObvious
Maybe so, but the players need to pay taxes on this money and right now they don't. If you earn a million per year you land in the highest tax bracket. Let a 19 year old try to figure how he is going to pay $350,000 tax after he buys a home and a Maserati.
Why do you believe that NIL income is not taxable?
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
yeah- fake tweet. Auburn people having fun
hahaha. its funny some get slayed on fake tweets, lol.
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Originally Posted by
confucius say
Why do you believe that NIL income is not taxable?
Surely it has to be right? It's earned income for "advertising" right? My guess/hope would be that the people running the collectives such as the BI look at how much each player is making and automatically withhold 12-40% for taxes so the kids don't get themselves blownup by the IRS come April
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Here is how you fix the portal:
If you play in 50% or more of your team's games, you have to sit 6 games if you transfer. That will lower costs because people aren't forking over 7 figures for a guy that misses the first 6 games.
Working with the eligibility is the only thing the NCAA can really do under law
CAN'T PUT A SADDLE ON A MUSTANG
Quit Your Bi$&$&?!, He's Not Going to Run the Ball More
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Originally Posted by
ShotgunDawg
Here is how you fix the portal:
If you play in 50% or more of your team's games, you have to sit 6 games if you transfer. That will lower costs because people aren't forking over 7 figures for a guy that misses the first 6 games.
Working with the eligibility is the only thing the NCAA can really do under law
Disagree. The best way to "fix" it is to get rid of the current system altogether and just pay the players directly, but under collectively bargained and regulated salaries like the pros. The SEC would have a minimum salary for each of the 85 scholarship players and a team salary cap. Good to have revenue sharing to increase competitiveness too.
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Originally Posted by
Quaoarsking
Disagree. The best way to "fix" it is to get rid of the current system altogether and just pay the players directly, but under collectively bargained and regulated salaries like the pros. The SEC would have a minimum salary for each of the 85 scholarship players and a team salary cap. Good to have revenue sharing to increase competitiveness too.
That doesn?t solve under the table benefits which will never end under any system.
ETA: Im still in favor of the old system minus the arbitrary probation of programs. Let people pay however much they want to with their private $ to recruits and their fams with one transfer sitting out a year.
Just dont ever have an NCAA investigation on any program pretending like EVERYONE isnt doing it.
Last edited by Schultzy; 12-01-2023 at 08:58 PM.
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Originally Posted by
BuckyIsAB****
It?s a pretty direct representation of what we have allowed our society to become. You bend and you give and you cower down till there is nothing left.
There is no other business or system anywhere in the world where you are asked to donate your money for no return, no choice where it goes, who gets it or how much. And then whoever does get it can jump up and leave one day and take the money with him and go steal from someone else.
They deserve to get paid, but the thing is they already were.
They need to be employees and there needs to be a salary cap and there needs to be contracts and the schools that are making millions of dollars need to be paying them and not people making 80K a year. The entire setup is ridiculous and the schools are laughing all the way to the bank while we are all trying to decide if our kids get a college fund or our school can get a 4 star wide receiver (that’s hyperbole but still).
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Originally Posted by
Schultzy
That doesn?t solve under the table benefits which will never end under any system.
ETA: Im still in favor of the old system minus the arbitrary probation of programs. Let people pay however much they want to with their private $ to recruits and their fams with one transfer sitting out a year.
Just dont ever have an NCAA investigation on any program pretending like EVERYONE isnt doing it.
What would solve under the table benefits is to make them employees, set a salary cap and if you’re caught going over that cap you get a 2 year death penalty, no questions asked. It will stop it all forever. That isn’t going to happen because it will make the blue bloods stop being blue bloods. They have thrived for 100 years on being able to pay more money to players than everyone else. You give them real consequences for doing it and they lose their advantage over schools like us. They will never agree to any rule like that and they run the sport.
Last edited by Jarius; 12-02-2023 at 10:51 AM.
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Originally Posted by
War Machine Dawg
Who would you have fix it? Congress? Everything they touch forms to a pile of crap the size of T-rex poo. At least if the NCAA regulates it, the big schools can either break away or reform it. If Congress does it, it's untouchable trash forever.
The NCAA can fix it if they wanted .... just make the transfers HAVE to sit a year- no exceptions. Not saying I'm advocating this just pointing out that there are remedies
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Originally Posted by
DawgFromOxford
Surely it has to be right? It's earned income for "advertising" right? My guess/hope would be that the people running the collectives such as the BI look at how much each player is making and automatically withhold 12-40% for taxes so the kids don't get themselves blownup by the IRS come April
And don't forget the kids agent, Uncle or preacher, is going to take his 25%. Then Mama and family another 25% add in Sis and bros and Cous new cars and duds. Then the player him/herself gets about 25% but still owes all the taxes. And this will drive up the Next NIL/
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