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Originally Posted by
msstate7
I'm losing interest in college football. I will certainly still watch, but my interest level continues to drop
I'm with you. And it was once a "way of life" for me. I literally breathed college football.
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Originally Posted by
Tater
Yea but that's the same shit Techsa did to Mike Leach. I doubt another or multiple universities are going to let that state law trick work lmao. It'll go Federal. Mike kept getting the run around and couldn't push his federal.
What I thought was impactful in the YouTube was ESPN and Disney getting culturally put in adversary conflict with college football fanbases and that conflict spilling over to Disney bottom line profits. This is a global image hit. Remember Disney also owns the SEC as it does the ACC. So all this pain for refusal to transfer assets within a single portfolio? Remember, Disney owns the grant of rights and not the ACC. This was publicly stated by North Carolina officials.
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
I'm losing interest in college football. I will certainly still watch, but my interest level continues to drop
Whenever I've said this to my college football loving friends and coworkers I get a lot of "Well, just don't watch it!" and I try to explain to them that if people like me do that it will be a major problem for the sport.
I've always pointed to the greed of NASCAR in the 90s as what I think will eventually happen to college football. The money is going to start to dry up at some point in my opinion.
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Stanford and Cal will likely be independent. Washington State and Oregon State will likely have to humble themselves and join the Mountain West if they can?t get invited elsewhere.
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https://www.espn.com/college-footbal...eague-16-teams
The dominoes are falling. All eyes are in the ACC now.
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
I'm losing interest in college football. I will certainly still watch, but my interest level continues to drop
Yup
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I'm thankful we are tucked in a power conference. Really feel for fans of WSU and Oregon state. Maybe they can get in the Big12. They are so similar to us in a lot of ways.
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Originally Posted by
Reason2succeed
I am going to resubmit a personal projection to fellow elitedoggers. My first submission was last year and it is attached to this discussion. I stated to fellow doggers that the end game of expansion is 2 super conferences of 20 teams. 34 of the 40 have fallen into place as of today. The projection leaves 2 for the BIG and I believe those to be ND and Cal. ND for the brand and Cal for the monetary location of the Bay Area. Do not leave FSU of Clemson out of that discussion, we are in the mist of corporate cut throat HUNGER GAMES.
Disney/ESPN are losing subscribers and that can very well trickle down to the SEC contract as an END GAME issue. If the ACC members that want out of the grant of rights, that has them indentured to Disney/ESPN, force a culture clash between a provider and ACC fan bases, the Disney Corporation could be forced to sever with ESPN? A severance will weaken ESPN to the point that contractual agreements with the SEC and Disney/ESPN could be in question. This future potential hatred of some ACC fanbases could escalate and encroach on the movie business of Disney. ACC fan bases could fatally damage Disney thru Twitter alone.
Because of the reasons stated, I believe that North Carolina, Clemson, Miami, and FSU will be in the SEC in 3 years because monetary greed will force this HUNGER GAMES.
Last edited by coachnorm; 08-05-2023 at 02:12 PM.
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SEC Super Conference
SEC East
South Carolina
Clemson
Georgia
Miami
Florida
SEC North
Tennessee
Kentucky
Vanderbilt * (Subject to Relegation)
Missouri
North Carolina
SEC South
Mississippi St
Ole Miss
FSU
Alabama
Auburn
SEC West
LSU
Arkansas
Texas
Texas A&M
Oklahoma
BIG 10 Super Conference
BIG 10 East
Maryland
Penn St
Noter Dame
Rutgers * (Subject to Relegation)
Michigan St
BIG 10 North
Minnesota
Wisconsin
NWestern
Michigan
Ohio St
Big 10 South
Nebraska
Iowa
Illinois
Perdue
Indiana
Big 10 West
USC
UCLA
Oregon
Washington
California
Super Conference Scheduling Rules
Games 9-12 will be played against division opponents
Games 4-8 will be played against a rotating division every 3 yrs
Game 3 will be a rival game or second rival if in 3 yrs rotation
Game 2 will be a conference close geographical game
Game 1 will be a non-conference game SEC vs BIG 10
Play OFF Rules
Simply each 20-team conference will have division winners eliminate each other and the SEC plays the BIG 10 for national championship.
Non division winners can play bowl games or NIT
Last edited by coachnorm; 08-05-2023 at 04:14 PM.
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
I'm losing interest in college football. I will certainly still watch, but my interest level continues to drop
Same here. But it's really across all sports to me. All of them are chasing the $$ to extreme levels now.
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Originally Posted by
coachnorm
SEC Super Conference
SEC East
South Carolina
Clemson
Georgia
Miami
Florida
SEC North
Tennessee
Kentucky
Vanderbilt * (Subject to Relegation)
Missouri
North Carolina
SEC South
Mississippi St
Ole Miss
FSU
Alabama
Auburn
SEC West
LSU
Arkansas
Texas
Texas A&M
Oklahoma
BIG 10 Super Conference
BIG 10 East
Maryland
Penn St
Noter Dame
Rutgers * (Subject to Relegation)
Michigan St
BIG 10 North
Minnesota
Wisconsin
NWestern
Michigan
Ohio St
Big 10 South
Nebraska
Iowa
Illinois
Perdue
Indiana
Big 10 West
USC
UCLA
Oregon
Washington
California
Super Conference Scheduling Rules
Games 9-12 will be played against division opponents
Games 4-8 will be played against a rotating division every 3 yrs
Game 3 will be a rival game or second rival if in 3 yrs rotation
Game 2 will be a conference close geographical game
Game 1 will be a non-conference game SEC vs BIG 10
Play OFF Rules
Simply each 20-team conference will have division winners eliminate each other and the SEC plays the BIG 10 for national championship.
Non division winners can play bowl games or NIT
The North division needs another big name football school in it, so I would do the following:
Move LSU to the South
Move FSU to the East
Move Georgia to the North
Move Missouri to the West
There's someone in my head but its not me.
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So long Pac12.
Fun fact (and bragging moment) - my wife will be the last Pac 12 Women's Singles tennis champion that USC will ever have. Pretty cool.
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Originally Posted by
SpaceWranglerDawg
So long Pac12.
Fun fact (and bragging moment) - my wife will be the last Pac 12 Women's Singles tennis champion that USC will ever have. Pretty cool.
That is cool.
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Originally Posted by
SpaceWranglerDawg
So long Pac12.
Fun fact (and bragging moment) - my wife will be the last Pac 12 Women's Singles tennis champion that USC will ever have. Pretty cool.
Nice.
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Originally Posted by
Joebob
The North division needs another big name football school in it, so I would do the following:
Move LSU to the South
Move FSU to the East
Move Georgia to the North
Move Missouri to the West
Better than that would be relegate Vanderbilt to the ACC and add NC State. Remember Disney/ESPN own both the SEC and ACC so this would just be a portfolio shuffle.
Last edited by coachnorm; 08-06-2023 at 10:17 PM.
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The Grant of Rights has been discussed ad-nauseum on message boards and linear tv. Litigation parameters among the old men power breakers has been discussed also. Everyone is trying to get a grasp on who will have the ultimate power in the ACC in regards to defection.
Maybe everyone is barking up the wrong tree? Maybe the students can deliver the knock out punch in this conflict? What would happen if the FSU boosters or any other program was to invest in T shirts to be worn at the games, let’s say 4 ACC teams. The T shirts would show Mickey Mouse Flogging Chief Osceola or Micky doing something obscene to the FSU mascot? Also, other mascots the same. If Twitter or YouTube gets this spread GLOBALLY, Disney/ESPN will have unbearable pain to endure when this digital content goes nationally, to Europe, to South America, to Africa, and to Asia. This will cause monetary pain in the Disney movie business.
This could go from digital to hard copy if students unite, maybe like the 1960s with the SDS, Students for a Democratic Society. Students with placards go to Disney World Orlando, Disneyland Anaheim, and Disney World Paris. If Twitter EXPLODES, connecting with this, Disney will probably go into self-preservation and shed ESPN from the corporation? This act of self-preservation also will motivate Disney/ESPN to give up on monetary clauses causing a monetary flogging for defecting the conference? I wonder how much damage thousands of students could do to Disney/ESPN if they were motivated and mobilized?
If any fellow elitedogger has connections with FSU or one of the other 3, why not copy and paste this statement to their social media?
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Originally Posted by
coachnorm
The Grant of Rights has been discussed ad-nauseum on message boards and linear tv. Litigation parameters among the old men power breakers has been discussed also. Everyone is trying to get a grasp on who will have the ultimate power in the ACC in regards to defection.
Maybe everyone is barking up the wrong tree? Maybe the students can deliver the knock out punch in this conflict? What would happen if the FSU boosters or any other program was to invest in T shirts to be worn at the games, let’s say 4 ACC teams. The T shirts would show Mickey Mouse Flogging Chief Osceola or Micky doing something obscene to the FSU mascot? Also, other mascots the same. If Twitter or YouTube gets this spread GLOBALLY, Disney/ESPN will have unbearable pain to endure when this digital content goes nationally, to Europe, to South America, to Africa, and to Asia. This will cause monetary pain in the Disney movie business.
This could go from digital to hard copy if students unite, maybe like the 1960s with the SDS, Students for a Democratic Society. Students with placards go to Disney World Orlando, Disneyland Anaheim, and Disney World Paris. If Twitter EXPLODES, connecting with this, Disney will probably go into self-preservation and shed ESPN from the corporation? This act of self-preservation also will motivate Disney/ESPN to give up on monetary clauses causing a monetary flogging for defecting the conference? I wonder how much damage thousands of students could do to Disney/ESPN if they were motivated and mobilized?
If any fellow elitedogger has connections with FSU or one of the other 3, why not copy and paste this statement to their social media?
Wait! Wut?!? You lost me bro!
I think FSU and Clemson and maybe a few more ACC teams join the Big 10 because ESPN already has them under contract so it doesn?t make sense for them to go to another ESPN conference like the SEC or the Big 12. I think the SEC stays at 16 because every time you add a team that is just another time you have to divide the money. No ACC teams are adding already untapped media markets enough to make adding them financially worthwhile unless ESPN just wants to play keep away from the Big 10.
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Originally Posted by
Reason2succeed
Wait! Wut?!? You lost me bro!
I think FSU and Clemson and maybe a few more ACC teams join the Big 10 because ESPN already has them under contract so it doesn?t make sense for them to go to another ESPN conference like the SEC or the Big 12. I think the SEC stays at 16 because every time you add a team that is just another time you have to divide the money. No ACC teams are adding already untapped media markets enough to make adding them financially worthwhile unless ESPN just wants to play keep away from the Big 10.
I don't think the SEC wants the BIG10 to get into its backyard for viewership. I think the SEC would definitely add Clemson and FSU as marquee national football brands in our market. BIG10 is going coast to coast now, the SEC won't do that but having such a powerful hold on college football makes you more relevant nationally with a smaller market footprint.
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Stanford and Cal talking with ACC. Described as "exploratory" talks.
Everyone wants to be a beast...until its time to do what beasts do.
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