State and NCAA Baseball

[Coach34]

My bad. 2 in 33 years. Not sure why 2016 slipped the mind.

[Coach34]

And we have historically held our own recruiting against LSU in baseball when our program is performing like it should. Even when LSU has not been at the top.of the league I can't ever remember them falling to the absolute bottom like we have the last 2 years

We have had 5 losing seasons in the last 15 seasons with only 1 of those being Lemon's. Again- acting like we are experiencing some historical losing under Lemon is not living in reality.

LSU will never fall like us. They are the best program in the country.

[sandjunky]

We have had 5 losing seasons in the last 15 seasons with only 1 of those being Lemon's. Again- acting like we are experiencing some historical losing under Lemon is not living in reality.

LSU will never fall like us. They are the best program in the country.

And LSU would have fired Lemonis after the last two seasons NC or not

[Coach34]

And LSU would have fired Lemonis after the last two seasons NC or not

We aren’t LSU and never will be

[Goldendawg]

We have had 5 losing seasons in the last 15 seasons with only 1 of those being Lemon's. Again- acting like we are experiencing some historical losing under Lemon is not living in reality.

LSU will never fall like us. They are the best program in the country.

14th of 14 SEC teams in '22 and 13th of 14 in '23 is now historical for us. Just having an overall winning season is a very low bar for us.

[Coach34]

14th of 14 SEC teams in '22 and 13th of 14 in '23 is now historical for us. Just having an overall winning season is a very low bar for us.

We finished last in 2008
We finished last in 2009
We finished next to last in 2010
Losing season in 2015
Losing season in 2022

5 losing seasons in the last 15 years

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

We finished last in 2008
We finished last in 2009
We finished next to last in 2010
Losing season in 2015
Losing season in 2022

5 losing seasons in the last 15 years

3 of those were the end of Polk 2/beginning g of Cohen where he had to fix the roster the slow way (no Portal)

In 15 Cohen reacted so strongly to loosing he got a ton of great JuCos and we won the SEC the next year. There's no good excuses for '15, but the man took action to fix it

What did Lemo do after his loosing season?

[Pancho]

same thing he's doing now, waiting

[StarkVegasSteve]

I wouldn't say that Vitello elevates anyone.....his teams are absolute trash as far as character goes and that lack of character is why they choke every post season.

Omaha 2 out of the last 3 years. National seed two out of the last 3 years and was the number 1 overall seed in 2022. At this moment they are light years ahead of us and it is solely because of Vitello. You can hate him all you want but I would take him in a heartbeat over Lemonis. Also, how about we stop acting like our guys play like choirboys. Hunter Hines flipped off the OM fans two years ago in Oxford, Ethan Small told the CMU dugout to blow him, and Logan Tanner had some very choice words for the OM dugout after the 21 series. And btw, none of that is bad. I love playing with that brash confidence and cockiness.

[BrunswickDawg]

3 of those were the end of Polk 2/beginning g of Cohen where he had to fix the roster the slow way (no Portal)

In 15 Cohen reacted so strongly to loosing he got a ton of great JuCos and we won the SEC the next year. There's no good excuses for '15, but the man took action to fix it

What did Lemo do after his loosing season?

That's not entirely true. We brought in exactly 3 JUCOs who contributed in '16 - Lowe, Kruger, and Daniel Brown. Everyone else was either on the roster or true freshman. We had a ton of guys make jumps (Hudson, Sexton, Houston and Rooker being the main ones) from '15 and had a freshmans who hit .400+, and 2 more who gave us major innings (Pilk and James).

More than anything Cohen filled a hole with Lowe, got lucky with Kruger which allowed Collins to play 3B (remember Lovelady was our C and he went down early to injury), and trusted the talent he saw that didn't play well in '15.

[sandjunky]

We aren’t LSU and never will be

I know, because our fans, school, boosters, you name it accepts mediocrity

It?s that poor ol ms state attitude of ?cant?

From a fandom standpoint, sometimes I kick myself for choosing MSU over LSU to get my degree

[Pancho]

baseball will be mediocre under lemonis. he's proven 2 years in a row that he's dull and can't get a top portal pitcher to seal the deal. hitting will be fine next season with or without Montgomery. Lemo's job is all under the control of Parker.

[Coach34]

baseball will be mediocre under lemonis. he's proven 2 years in a row that he's dull and can't get a top portal pitcher to seal the deal. hitting will be fine next season with or without Montgomery. Lemo's job is all under the control of Parker.

It is weird to me that he and staff do a good job of overall recruiting but have been very lackluster in portal recruiting.

[State82]

It is weird to me that he and staff do a good job of overall recruiting but have been very lackluster in portal recruiting.

I thought about that also. Hard to figure.

[Todd4State]

We aren’t LSU and never will be

Quite frankly- we're way too nice to our coaches.

If LSU has a year like we did in 2022 they'll turn on Jay Johnson VERY quickly.

[Todd4State]

It is weird to me that he and staff do a good job of overall recruiting but have been very lackluster in portal recruiting.

I think we've done pretty well myself. Who have we lost? Skenes and Holman? I think our pitching situation is part of that in both cases. Skenes because we still had Foxhall and he liked LSU's team better. And Holman because Parker is a little bit of a newer guy and his friend was on their team. And in both cases we got pretty close to landing them. If Parker has a good year there is a good chance we'll get the next big guy next year.

But look at who we have gotten- Dubrule and Simmons for 2021. 2022 we got RJ Yeager and Jess Davis. 2023 we got Ledbetter who became a second round pick, Dohm, Nixon, Larry, and Hujsack.

I do think we could do better but I don't think we've been bad and at least Lemonis typically fills holes in the lineup.

[Pancho]

like I said, kinda mediocre for a guy who should field a top 15 caliber team annually. Lemo contacted several other portal guys this summer, not just pitchers but came up no dice. I am very interested in Parker though and what immediate improvement he can get from each arm really. I'm wondering if next season might be a situation where we see 3-4 arms each game, regardless of who starts as part of a strategic plan to keep guys fresh and out of trouble.

[KOdawg1]

Quite frankly- we're way too nice to our coaches.

If LSU has a year like we did in 2022 they'll turn on Jay Johnson VERY quickly.

This is true. LSU fired Orgeron less than two years after they won a national championship. They'd do the same for Jay Johnson if he falls apart.

We weren't willing to do the same to Lemonis.

[RockyDog]

Omaha 2 out of the last 3 years. National seed two out of the last 3 years and was the number 1 overall seed in 2022. At this moment they are light years ahead of us and it is solely because of Vitello. You can hate him all you want but I would take him in a heartbeat over Lemonis. Also, how about we stop acting like our guys play like choirboys. Hunter Hines flipped off the OM fans two years ago in Oxford, Ethan Small told the CMU dugout to blow him, and Logan Tanner had some very choice words for the OM dugout after the 21 series. And btw, none of that is bad. I love playing with that brash confidence and cockiness.

B-b-b-b-b-but we put 14k in the stands to watch us lose!!! Baseball royalty!!

[Tater]

B-b-b-b-b-but we put 14k in the stands to watch us lose!!! Baseball royalty!!

Scoob can you already send this rebel packing? Nothing but negativity and hating State stuff in every sport with damn near every post. Pointless to discuss anything with him.