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My Biggest Concern for FB 2023
I have been watching a lot of Kevin Barbay from AppState and CMU which has left me with little to no concern about our offense.
However, what is our secondary going to look like. It?s not like they were great the last couple of years outside of the corner position. We have a new safeties coach and are replacing the entire unit basically.
I am happy that there are not a lot of returning pass first QBs we are facing but even a team like Arizona could be problematic if our secondary is sketchy.
Someone please tell me something to alleviate my fears.
Death penalty or bust!!!***
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I'm there with you. We cause a lot of disruption behind the line, so that will help if we can continue that.
I'm not sold on our D line group either. After crumedy, nobody is proven.
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Losing Forbes and Tyrus Wheat is going to be something hard for us to replace. John Lewis looks like he has potential though to be a play maker.
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Originally Posted by
Reason2succeed
I have been watching a lot of Kevin Barbay from AppState and CMU which has left me with little to no concern about our offense.
However, what is our secondary going to look like. It?s not like they were great the last couple of years outside of the corner position. We have a new safeties coach and are replacing the entire unit basically.
I am happy that there are not a lot of returning pass first QBs we are facing but even a team like Arizona could be problematic if our secondary is sketchy.
Someone please tell me something to alleviate my fears.
I think the concerns are fair. What I keep going back to is how most of us thought our defense was going to be crap in 2020 and Arnett got the very best out of them, exceeding most people's expectations by a mile. I just sort of feel like Arnett & Brock are going to figure it out.
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Originally Posted by
RiverCityDawg
I think the concerns are fair. What I keep going back to is how most of us thought our defense was going to be crap in 2020 and Arnett got the very best out of them, exceeding most people's expectations by a mile. I just sort of feel like Arnett & Brock are going to figure it out.
I think they will be solid. But arnett and Brock haven't had them at a high level in 3 years. I know there are multiple reasons for that, but we've been a middle of the pack sec defense
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Originally Posted by
Todd4State
Losing Forbes and Tyrus Wheat is going to be something hard for us to replace. John Lewis looks like he has potential though to be a play maker.
We will have something to replace Wheat. Wish he would have stayed one more year. But we will have something.
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Can anyone even give a projected starting lineup for the secondary? All I know is DCam at one corner.
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Just based on the spring game alone, there is no doubt this is gonna be one of the fastest defenses we have had in a long time. We've added some speed where we needed to. I'm not really that concerned.
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The back end of the defense will go as far as our pass rush takes them. If we allow QB?s 4 seconds on every play from snap to throw, it will be ugly. If the corners play 10 yards off and can?t press, the LBs will have to help make tackles 6 yards down field. Just never have liked 3 upfront pushing against 5 linemen. It frees up the opposing Tight End to tie up a LB and a RB to get out on another LB in space. I think a base 4-3-4 works if you have speed rushers on both sides when the offense lines up a tight end. Eliminate the double team if they TE goes out. If he stays in the o can double team two guys and still have a lineman to pick up the blitz.
I understand the principle of the 3-3-5 of disguising the coverage and having the QB have to make multiple reads. But then if he has 4-5-6 seconds, he is going to find the open man. A weak pass rush against a team playing a TE also gives him time to block then leak out into the flat or run into an open space midfield.
All that to say, I expect State to go 15-0 just like I do at he start of every season. 😎
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adding Rogers from Holmes County/Miami is going to help with depth. He was a helluva 9th grader starting in 5A and did a great job. I worry about his 2 knee surgeries- however as we saw in the Spring Game- he is still the ball hawk he has always been. Still a R/Fr and will get better- the guy is just a football player with great instincts. He will help on the back end
Also hope Ellington is now ready to play more snaps consistently
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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Originally Posted by
CaptainObvious
The back end of the defense will go as far as our pass rush takes them. If we allow QB?s 4 seconds on every play from snap to throw, it will be ugly. If the corners play 10 yards off and can?t press, the LBs will have to help make tackles 6 yards down field. Just never have liked 3 upfront pushing against 5 linemen. It frees up the opposing Tight End to tie up a LB and a RB to get out on another LB in space. I think a base 4-3-4 works if you have speed rushers on both sides when the offense lines up a tight end. Eliminate the double team if they TE goes out. If he stays in the o can double team two guys and still have a lineman to pick up the blitz.
I understand the principle of the 3-3-5 of disguising the coverage and having the QB have to make multiple reads. But then if he has 4-5-6 seconds, he is going to find the open man. A weak pass rush against a team playing a TE also gives him time to block then leak out into the flat or run into an open space midfield.
All that to say, I expect State to go 15-0 just like I do at he start of every season. 😎
Word on the street is we are gonna play more snaps with 4 down linemen this year. Apparently we plan to be more aggressive up front on defense since we are no longer air raid on offense.
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Originally Posted by
CaptainObvious
The back end of the defense will go as far as our pass rush takes them. If we allow QB?s 4 seconds on every play from snap to throw, it will be ugly. If the corners play 10 yards off and can?t press, the LBs will have to help make tackles 6 yards down field. Just never have liked 3 upfront pushing against 5 linemen. It frees up the opposing Tight End to tie up a LB and a RB to get out on another LB in space. I think a base 4-3-4 works if you have speed rushers on both sides when the offense lines up a tight end. Eliminate the double team if they TE goes out. If he stays in the o can double team two guys and still have a lineman to pick up the blitz.
I understand the principle of the 3-3-5 of disguising the coverage and having the QB have to make multiple reads. But then if he has 4-5-6 seconds, he is going to find the open man. A weak pass rush against a team playing a TE also gives him time to block then leak out into the flat or run into an open space midfield.
All that to say, I expect State to go 15-0 just like I do at he start of every season. 😎
How many times have we only rushed 3 in Arnett?s tenure? If teams are max protecting and leaving RBs and TEs in, they?re only getting 3 out in the routes.
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Never worried about defense. If history was ever on our side, it is on defense. If you take away 2016 with Peter Sirmon, when has State been bad at defense?
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Originally Posted by
Reason2succeed
Can anyone even give a projected starting lineup for the secondary? All I know is DCam at one corner.
CB- Decam
CB- Probably Furdge rn, but it'll be a battle between him, Decarlos Nicholson, Khaumari Rogers, and Raydar Jones
FS- Marcus Banks
SS- Corey Ellington or JaKobi Albert (transfer from UK)
Dawg- Shawn Preston
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Only concern for me is how long it takes for the offense to get rolling. The OL is an issue.
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Originally Posted by
Cooterpoot
Only concern for me is how long it takes for the offense to get rolling. The OL is an issue.
I've been saying the same but keep getting told these guys run blocked in high school. We will see.
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Originally Posted by
confucius say
I've been saying the same but keep getting told these guys run blocked in high school. We will see.
I?m not concerned about their run blocking. Look at how we they blocked for the run with only 5 OL. Look at the Texas A&M game especially. When asked to run block they had no problems. Now add a TE to that and maybe even an H-Back on some plays.
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Originally Posted by
KOdawg1
CB- Decam
CB- Probably Furdge rn, but it'll be a battle between him, Decarlos Nicholson, Khaumari Rogers, and Raydar Jones
FS- Marcus Banks
SS- Corey Ellington or JaKobi Albert (transfer from UK)
Dawg- Shawn Preston
Thanks. Where are they projecting Isaac Smith to play and do they think he will be healthy by fall camp?
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Originally Posted by
Reason2succeed
Thanks. Where are they projecting Isaac Smith to play and do they think he will be healthy by fall camp?
He was recruited as a Dawg safety and had he been able to participate in the spring, he would've been able to push for playing time. I think he'll be healthy by fall camp but idk how realistic expectations will be
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Originally Posted by
Reason2succeed
I?m not concerned about their run blocking. Look at how we they blocked for the run with only 5 OL. Look at the Texas A&M game especially. When asked to run block they had no problems. Now add a TE to that and maybe even an H-Back on some plays.
They were basically blocking five on three or four the vast majority of the time plus we spread the defenders out with our formation.
That's not going to happen this year when we line up in a two tight end set and our OC is telling the world we want to establish the run. Unless we line up like that in an obvious pass situation or something.
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