LSU ace out

[AlSwearengen]

Torn UCL. Must be throwing those heavy balls the midget brought with him.

[Commercecomet24]

Arkansas down a frontline starter too. Wiggins out for the season

[Homedawg]

It's just todays era. Weighted balls play a factor. There is no doubt in my mind. But that's just a part. We can watch. Auburn does no Weighted balls. Lsu it's a religion w Johnson. And foxhall uses them some. Or did. I assume he still does. But not to the degree Johnson does.

[Todd4State]

Torn UCL. Must be throwing those heavy balls the midget brought with him.

It's likely too heavy too soon.

Similar situation in that we hired Wes late and LSU also hired Wes late. Maybe doing too much too soon to try to make up for lost time.

[The Federalist Engineer]

This dude really their Ace?

Not Skenes, Little, or Hurd?

Seems like a really good prospect, 10-Rated recruit. Pitched in 17 games last season, ERA +5, whip almost 2.

[Todd4State]

This dude really their Ace?

Not Skenes, Little, or Hurd?

Seems like a really good prospect, 10-Rated recruit. Pitched in 17 games last season, ERA +5, whip almost 2.

Potential ace closer maybe.

[AlSwearengen]

This dude really their Ace?

Not Skenes, Little, or Hurd?

Seems like a really good prospect, 10-Rated recruit. Pitched in 17 games last season, ERA +5, whip almost 2.

Multiple baseball people on twitter were saying he was the best they saw during the fall.

[CoachT14]

Torn UCL. Must be throwing those heavy balls the midget brought with him.

Because throwing an implement heavier than a 5 oz baseball causes a plethora of Tommy John. *cough cough* Footballs are 14-16 oz.

[CoachT14]

It's likely too heavy too soon.

Similar situation in that we hired Wes late and LSU also hired Wes late. Maybe doing too much too soon to try to make up for lost time.

This is possible. Weighted balls in and of themselves aren't bad. But they can be misused. There's no doubt to that. Throwing a weighted ball is no different than lifting weights. If you are lifting improperly or moving up in weight too quick... of course you can get hurt.

[SilentSteel16]

To show you how tight these standings are, LSU dropped out of top overall bet to win it all with this guy going down. Tenn just took top spot. West is stacked

[SilentSteel16]

Because throwing an implement heavier than a 5 oz baseball causes a plethora of Tommy John. *cough cough* Footballs are 14-16 oz.

Throwing a football is a totally different arm motion genius ….

[SilentSteel16]

You do know that a weighted ball is not a “medicine ball” right???

[Johnson85]

Throwing a football is a totally different arm motion genius ….

Plus how often are you throwing the ball close to as hard as you can in football?

[Ari Gold]

All I know is “midget”
When he left here got jobs at Arky, MLB, and now LSU

Prob a really good indication he is very good

And side not we had our arm issues last year as well

[SilentSteel16]

He is very good, his only drawback is the 6/1 schedule he keeps. Ideally you want a 4/3 or rarely a 5/2 schedule for pitchers in season. That is why his guys usually drag up with arm fatigue. He only has 1 non scheduled rest day (no throwing.) We always ran a 5/2 with 1 of those 2 days being a pure cardio day but then again we were on 162 game schedule not 60. I still don’t believe in the Plyo ball stuff but that was just becoming a thing when I went back to flying. Putting that kind of torque on an elbow with weight is never a good recipe in my mind.

[The Federalist Engineer]

Multiple baseball people on twitter were saying he was the best they saw during the fall.

Good to know- those guys are awesomely deep down there.

[archdog]

Football, not even close to the same.

[CoachT14]

Throwing a football is a totally different arm motion genius ….

Totally different? Lol. It's an overhead throwing motion. The stress is the same. They throw footballs every single day multiple times during practice. You don't throw weighted balls off the mound. They are usually thrown during the warmup phase. Driveline specifically recommends from 10 to 90 feet then switch to a 5 oz after for max distance and the pull down portion of long toss. I highly doubt Alan Jaegar one of the best arm care guys in the world would even recommend using weighted balls, let alone allow them to use his name and bands in their peer-reviewed studies if he didn't think they were healthy.

[Cowbell]

It will happen to us as well.

[basedog]

The biggest problem are kids/pitchers throwing way too much at early ages. Especially curve balls.