GameDay aftermath

[Pancho]

I'm still trying to see how some criminals broke out some car windows during a JSU game in the wonderful capital city has anything to do with abortion.

[Catfish]

I'm still trying to see how some criminals broke out some car windows during a JSU game in the wonderful capital city has anything to do with abortion.

Agreed

[Lord McBuckethead]

I'm still trying to see how some criminals broke out some car windows during a JSU game in the wonderful capital city has anything to do with abortion.

It has plenty to do with abortion, and any other topic involving family life and impacts education levels in the surrounding areas.

[Pancho]

It has plenty to do with abortion, and any other topic involving family life and impacts education levels in the surrounding areas.

So, we should kill off as many as we can before they are born just in case they grow up to live in a area with a bad school and most end up criminals? That is some good logic right there.

[TUSK]

Why can't we all just meet in the middle...

I say we legalize abortion up til the 300th trimester... and, as a "collective", all have a say in it...

[Political Hack]

People disagreeing on abortion? Weird.

When does life start? Intercourse? Conception? Heartbeat? Birth? First breath? If you ask a million people you'll get a million different answers. Nobody can agree on this. And if nobody agrees when the right to life even begins, it probably shouldn't be something the gubbermant gets overly involved with, making laws and enforcement policies, etc... Big brother and all... it'll change constantly every time the other political party takes office. New laws, new health impacts, new population impacts, legal consequences, judicial/penal system impacts, etc... It's a never ending cycle over an argument that the government needs to stay away from until we either become super enlightened as an entire society and an obvious answer slaps us in the face and/or we have new science and technology developments that impact the argument (e.g., all of a sudden there are no more accidental pregnancies).

I am a personally pro-life. I don't think I could sanction it or agree with it if it were a personal issue... but I also don't think everyone should be pro life just because I am. So, from a policy perspective I've always leaned a little more pro-choice because I'm generally supportive of "pro-less government-involvement" in most social dilemmas...

What happened to states rights? Is that still a thing? The citizens of Mississippi and the citizens of California may have very different, deeply entrenched cultural beliefs on this issue. Why can't Mississippi have different laws than California? Why is this a federal government issue now? If it's a national issue, why isn't a global issue?

Please play nice in the sandbox when discussing.

[Bdawg]

People disagreeing on abortion? Weird.

When does life start? Intercourse? Conception? Heartbeat? Birth? First breath? If you ask a million people you'll get a million different answers. Nobody can agree on this. And if nobody agrees when the right to life even begins, it probably shouldn't be something the gubbermant gets overly involved with, making laws and enforcement policies, etc... Big brother and all... it'll change constantly every time the other political party takes office. New laws, new health impacts, new population impacts, legal consequences, judicial/penal system impacts, etc... It's a never ending cycle over an argument that the government needs to stay away from until we either become super enlightened as an entire society and an obvious answer slaps us in the face and/or we have new science and technology developments that impact the argument (e.g., all of a sudden there are no more accidental pregnancies).

I am a personally pro-life. I don't think I could sanction it or agree with it if it were a personal issue... but I also don't think everyone should be pro life just because I am. So, from a policy perspective I've always leaned a little more pro-choice because I'm generally supportive of "pro-less government-involvement" in most social dilemmas...

What happened to states rights? Is that still a thing? The citizens of Mississippi and the citizens of California may have very different, deeply entrenched cultural beliefs on this issue. Why can't Mississippi have different laws than California? Why is this a federal government issue now? If it's a national issue, why isn't a global issue?

Please play nice in the sandbox when discussing.

Well this is exactly what the Supreme Court ruling did. All it did was send the power back to the states to make their own laws in regards to abortion. It?s where it should be now.

[Tater]

Well this is exactly what the Supreme Court ruling did. All it did was send the power back to the states to make their own laws in regards to abortion. It?s where it should be now.

No you have it backwards. The original ruling left it up to individual people to decide what's right. This ruling now stripped that decision and is opening the door for more government involvement.

You sound like a "the United States are" instead of a "the United States is" type of person and if that's the case then your state should just secede and see how long it lasts without Federal welfare distribution. Good luck.

[Bdawg]

No you have it backwards. The original ruling left it up to individual people to decide what's right. This ruling now stripped that decision and is opening the door for more government involvement.

You sound like a "the United States are" instead of a "the United States is" type of person and if that's the case then your state should just secede and see how long it lasts without Federal welfare distribution. Good luck.

Sorry you are wrong. The original ruling brought the federal government into something it should have never been in the first place. You need to brush up on the constitution and enumerated powers. That’s the problem with the fed gov., they stick their nose into things they are not supposed to and just cause more problems. Why bring up succession? Not one person here has mentioned that. Would suit me if they got rid of welfare. Would put a lot of lazy people to work and make the states more responsible with money when it comes to hand outs. Would keep the federal gov from using programs to buy votes too.

[Tater]

Sorry you are wrong. The original ruling brought the federal government into something it should have never been in the first place. You need to brush up on the constitution and enumerated powers. That’s the problem with the fed gov., they stick their nose into things they are not supposed to and just cause more problems. Why bring up succession? Not one person here has mentioned that. Would suit me if they got rid of welfare. Would put a lot of lazy people to work and make the states more responsible with money when it comes to hand outs. Would keep the federal gov from using programs to buy votes too.

The state of Mississippi would not survive without federal subsidies and welfare.

And again Roe v. Wade was the fed gov saying people have personal privacy and rights to their bodies (in more than just abortions). This blocked governments (fed, state, county) from intervening in these PERSONAL decisions.

I don't know how you see it as anything but opening the door for MORE government regulation. You have to be willfully misunderstanding it at this point.

[PMDawg]

Well, part of the problem is you've got people bringing discourse like this to the table:



Out of curiosity, what would you tell that poster about how to make his discourse less shitty?

Here's the thing, he's a Nate Silver liberal. What does that mean? It means that he thinks he's a liberal because he's smart, and you (or anyone) are a conservative because you're stupid. Life experiences? World views? Personal thoughts or beliefs? Meaningless! It's all about intelligence to them (it's really about egos).

Point of proof is that the new favorite demographics to point out are "college education and above" and "High school education or less". The quiet part is that they think that is "smart" vs. "stupid".

It used to be white collar vs blue collar, but they realized that didn't carry enough of the negative connotation they were looking for. But, I have news for those smart people. I have a degree in mechanical engineering. I breezed through it with a 3.6 without studying much or really applying myself. My Dad dropped out of State after 3 semesters to go serve in Vietnam. I made a 31 on my ACT, my Dad made a 19. But guess what? That sucker can run circles around me when it comes to working on engines or building/fixing pretty much anything. He ran a farm for 30 years. He can do anything. He may not have a degree, or even an above average IQ. But that man is smart. Smarter than a TON of people I've met running around with degrees.

But I digress. It's never about ideas, discourse, discussion, or being open minded. They want YOU to be open minded, because you're stupid (in their mind). They say they don't like generalizations, stereotypes, and close-mindedness, because saying that makes them sound smart! Unfortunately, they don't care that they're always doing that to people/groups who don't agree with them.

That's not all liberals. That's why I say Nate Silver liberals. If you ever read his stuff, you'll know what I'm talking about. The funny thing is he believes he's being sneaky about it. Lol

[BeardoMSU]

Here's the thing, he's a Nate Silver liberal.

The 538 guy?

[Tater]

Here's the thing, he's a Nate Silver liberal. What does that mean? It means that he thinks he's a liberal because he's smart, and you (or anyone) are a conservative because you're stupid. Life experiences? World views? Personal thoughts or beliefs? Meaningless! It's all about intelligence to them (it's really about egos).

Point of proof is that the new favorite demographics to point out are "college education and above" and "High school education or less". The quiet part is that they think that is "smart" vs. "stupid".

It used to be white collar vs blue collar, but they realized that didn't carry enough of the negative connotation they were looking for. But, I have news for those smart people. I have a degree in mechanical engineering. I breezed through it with a 3.6 without studying much or really applying myself. My Dad dropped out of State after 3 semesters to go serve in Vietnam. I made a 31 on my ACT, my Dad made a 19. But guess what? That sucker can run circles around me when it comes to working on engines or building/fixing pretty much anything. He ran a farm for 30 years. He can do anything. He may not have a degree, or even an above average IQ. But that man is smart. Smarter than a TON of people I've met running around with degrees.

But I digress. It's never about ideas, discourse, discussion, or being open minded. They want YOU to be open minded, because you're stupid (in their mind). They say they don't like generalizations, stereotypes, and close-mindedness, because saying that makes them sound smart! Unfortunately, they don't care that they're always doing that to people/groups who don't agree with them.

That's not all liberals. That's why I say Nate Silver liberals. If you ever read his stuff, you'll know what I'm talking about. The funny thing is he believes he's being sneaky about it. Lol

1. Nate Bronze is not a liberal. He's just a data guy.

2. When people vote constantly for things that negatively affect them and their country, they are by definition an idiot. Doesn't have anything to do with how much schooling you got. Most of us all went to State here and got degrees. And quite a lot of those that did, are still being idiots.

You're stupid to believe that Roe v. Wade being overturned was good for citizens in America.
You're stupid to believe that the Patriot Act was a good thing.
You're stupid to believe that the War in Iraq wasn't about money and oil rather than a "war on terror".
You're stupid to believe that a Drag Show is inherently sexual yet a Beauty Pageant is not.
You're stupid to believe that tax breaks are always a good thing.
You're stupid to believe that Ronald Reagan wasn't the worst president ever.
You're stupid to believe that the President directly controls gas prices.
You're stupid to believe that voting for a party that has no platform and props up snake oil salesmen and walking CTE is going to look out for your best interests.

It's not about being open minded. It's about you actually being stupid and most people who know how to apply a shred of critical thinking saying I will not have discourse with you until you TRY ANY AMOUNT OF EFFORT to not be a walking, talking sucker. All because someone tells you to based on a book you didn't actually read. It's why I refuse to have religious debates with people who can't prove they've read and understood the Bible / Quran / Torah / etc. They're, quite simply, parroting what they've been told instead of critically thinking.

If you're just a parrot, you don't deserve anything more than being called an idiot in debate. Your thoughts aren't even your own.

[PMDawg]

1. Nate Bronze is not a liberal. He's just a data guy.

2. When people vote constantly for things that negatively affect them and their country, they are by definition an idiot. Doesn't have anything to do with how much schooling you got. Most of us all went to State here and got degrees. And quite a lot of those that did, are still being idiots.

You're stupid to believe that Roe v. Wade being overturned was good for citizens in America.
You're stupid to believe that the Patriot Act was a good thing.
You're stupid to believe that the War in Iraq wasn't about money and oil rather than a "war on terror".
You're stupid to believe that a Drag Show is inherently sexual yet a Beauty Pageant is not.
You're stupid to believe that tax breaks are always a good thing.
You're stupid to believe that Ronald Reagan wasn't the worst president ever.
You're stupid to believe that the President directly controls gas prices.
You're stupid to believe that voting for a party that has no platform and props up snake oil salesmen and walking CTE is going to look out for your best interests.

It's not about being open minded. It's about you actually being stupid and most people who know how to apply a shred of critical thinking saying I will not have discourse with you until you TRY ANY AMOUNT OF EFFORT to not be a walking, talking sucker. All because someone tells you to based on a book you didn't actually read. It's why I refuse to have religious debates with people who can't prove they've read and understood the Bible / Quran / Torah / etc. They're, quite simply, parroting what they've been told instead of critically thinking.

If you're just a parrot, you don't deserve anything more than being called an idiot in debate. Your thoughts aren't even your own.

You could have saved a lot of typing and just said "I'm an arrogant butthole with an over-inflated sense of self worth, and I believe that I know everything".

Oh, and by the way, you just made the exact same argument Seth Dillon (owner of the Babylon Bee) made against cancel culture (the left wing hivemind). When something is absurd on it's face, you're not supposed to pretend like it's not. You make fun of it and highlight the idiocy of it. That's what comedy used to be. Now, there are too many liberal sacred cows that you can't make fun of without being canceled. Seth Rogan, Dave Chappelle, Elon Musk, Ricky Gervais, and a handful of other liberals have voiced this thought recently and have all had to live through attempts to be cancelled by their liberal peers because of it. Just more of that open mindedness liberals love.

[msstate7]

It's sad. I started typing out a well thought out response, but there just isn't one with some of you.

You just want to feel like you're right about something rather than learn something. It shows through the tone of your posts. It's sad really. When did discourse become so shitty.

There's nothing anyone can say here to even move your minds an inch. Mental flexibility leads to more growth than stubbornness.

From this to your tirade above. You sure exemplify an open mind

[Extendedcab]

From this to your tirade above. You sure exemplify an open mind

Except he has no moral standard to stand on. His thoughts shift in the wind wherever it blows. Like Israel back in the day of the Judges, where everybody did what was right in their own eyes. There was no moral standard at that time and they paid the price for it.

Now you know what is wrong with this country! His tirade is a classic example!

[msstate7]

You are making some pretty big assumptions about the people who are aborted. Generally, people are an asset to a country, at least in the US. And Thermo is not the relevant question when you are talking about resources being finite. We are no where near running out of assets in a thermo sense. What is relevant right now are resources that are economic. We would have more energy needs with more people and also more resources would be economic to meet those needs.

All that to say, I'm pretty sure the take you call brain dead would be closer to consensus among economists than your take.

Tater didn't wanna defend his position when challenge by Johnson here.

[Pancho]

i figure ain't much gonna change on the inner city jackson crime scene. The ones who are busting out the car windows will continue. Thus, the reason the surrounding areas continue to thrive and grow. Any information as to why the espn folks were lodged in a different area than where the game was played?

[Pancho]

lawdie mercy. we done went from crime in jackson to abortion and now to the Israelites. dang skippy. what ya'll think the jackson mayor and police gone do bout all the severe car jackings and robbing and killing that goes on down there? Can Deion help em out? He obviously way smarter than they are.

[Goldendawg]

lawdie mercy. we done went from crime in jackson to abortion and now to the Israelites. dang skippy. what ya'll think the jackson mayor and police gone do bout all the severe car jackings and robbing and killing that goes on down there? Can Deion help em out? He obviously way smarter than they are.

How in the world has this thread not been locked? I thought we were a MSU/Sports site. This reads like something on Sixpack.