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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    But Parson wont be our QB until 2025 at least. We're not sitting a 4 year starter coming back for his 5th year to break every NCAA passing record. What do we do until then?
    Not arguing. Will's our QB next year without a doubt. We'll see what happens rest of season and next.

    Made a post in another thread about coaches turning the corner in year 5 or 6. Dabo, Stoops, Mullen, Jackie, Clawson, etc. Before that it's quite up and down and at MSU, it was still up and down with Mullen and Jackie after the really good years. We did have the late 90's run with Jackie, but he still had the WTF losses too. And after about 3 or so of those years, it was time for NCAA to punish us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dawgday166 View Post
    Not arguing. Will's our QB next year without a doubt. We'll see what happens rest of season and next.

    Made a post in another thread about coaches turning the corner in year 5 or 6. Dabo, Stoops, Mullen, Jackie, Clawson, etc. Before that it's quite up and down and at MSU, it was still up and down with Mullen and Jackie after the really good years. We did have the late 90's run with Jackie, but he still had the WTF losses too. And after about 3 or so of those years, it was time for NCAA to punish us.
    All those guys you named werent in their 60's when they did it tho. In your 60's- its supposed to already be in place
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    But What do we do until then?
    Watch post season baseball

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    All those guys you named werent in their 60's when they did it tho. In your 60's- its supposed to already be in place
    Saban was in his 60's when he had to change his O philosophy. He also had the D studs, players and resources to change it without too many hiccups. Leach doesn't have to change his much other than a few tweaks like Heupel. However, he does need some players developed or added.

    And per your earlier post ... we do need more DUDES. At least some anyway and especially at D front 7 & WR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB**** View Post
    But the crap about the drops is you coming up with a way to blame Will and Leach. That is ridiculous. The crap about losing to OM for 3 in a row is ridiculous.
    We have a decent shot at 9 wins and we are better than OM.
    I read your post like it was The Dude. "Well, thats like your opinion man!!!!!!" lol

    I dont know what position you played but try catching the ball at the same time you run into a wall or get hit by a damn animal barreling down on you. Its not easy at all. Sometimes you win- sometimes the wall or the animal wins.

    Mississippi has proven to be better than us since the two coaches got on campus. Until Leach beats him- he is the King. They are 7-1 and playing solid ball. We play at their place. We are 0-3 on the road in the SEC with only 32 points scored offensively in those 3 games. Advantage Mississippi.
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    There is no question Leach needs to win the Egg Bowl this year. It’s the most important game for him in his time here. Going 8-4 and winning the Egg Bowl and getting to the Gator Bowl or some type of Florida bowl needs to be the goal. Not doing that with 18 starters returning is unacceptable. We will end up playing 5 ranked teams and we need to at least beat 1 of them. Going 0-5 against them would not be a good look.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PGHBulldogBG View Post
    There is no question Leach needs to win the Egg Bowl this year. It’s the most important game for him in his time here. Going 8-4 and winning the Egg Bowl and getting to the Gator Bowl or some type of Florida bowl needs to be the goal. Not doing that with 18 starters returning is unacceptable. We will end up playing 5 ranked teams and we need to at least beat 1 of them. Going 0-5 against them would not be a good look.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PGHBulldogBG View Post
    There is no question Leach needs to win the Egg Bowl this year. It’s the most important game for him in his time here. Going 8-4 and winning the Egg Bowl and getting to the Gator Bowl or some type of Florida bowl needs to be the goal. Not doing that with 18 starters returning is unacceptable. We will end up playing 5 ranked teams and we need to at least beat 1 of them. Going 0-5 against them would not be a good look.
    Yep can't argue with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    I read your post like it was The Dude. "Well, thats like your opinion man!!!!!!" lol

    I dont know what position you played but try catching the ball at the same time you run into a wall or get hit by a damn animal barreling down on you. Its not easy at all. Sometimes you win- sometimes the wall or the animal wins.

    Mississippi has proven to be better than us since the two coaches got on campus. Until Leach beats him- he is the King. They are 7-1 and playing solid ball. We play at their place. We are 0-3 on the road in the SEC with only 32 points scored offensively in those 3 games. Advantage Mississippi.
    You have to catch the football. Walleys drop and Tulus drop change the game. If will throws a duck you would have a mile long post about how it was his fault. You have to help yourself by taking points when they are there and actually make the FG. We didnt. We can agree on somethings and disagree on others. We should def run the football more. 100 percent.

    Ole miss has beaten one team at home on a day where said team played their worst game and still found a way to blow it at the end. They have done absolutely nothing impressive. If we play like we did vs Bama we will beat them. Obviously if we show up like we did at UK we will not. They are the ones who are going to have to fight for 7-5.

    They will be beat to hell by the time they play us. LSU just beat them like a govt mule. Worse than we have been beat all year. They were outscored 42-3 after the first quarter or so. If that was us you would have this place in a riot. I can remember the days when you would have never ever posted stuff like that. Like your famous Fredo post about them. Now you are conceding to them bc we throw the ball too much. Playing at Oxford vs a bad defense and a one dimensional offense is a hell of a lot different than Baton Rouge and Tuscaloosa.


    We are literally a fumble at the inch line and a dropped pass away on the worst weather we have ever played in from being 2-0. If they were so much better than us and we kept it that close then Kiffin is a huge underachiever. This board might as well be the grove the way some have acted on here. Go put on your bow tie and your loafers if youre scared
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    If you've watched om this year you will see that their offense is totally different after their first 15-20 scripted plays. They really fade after that. If you survive the first quarter against om they're extremely average it's like lanes coaching pills wear off after that. Saturday is what they've been all year after the first quarter they've just finally played a real team. Heck Tulsa would've beaten om if they hadnt taken out their qb and wr1. Saturday after first quarter lsu 42 points 414 yards om 3 points 149 yards. Microcosm of om season. We cannot play like we did against uk and expect to win but om is extremely average and beatable

    ETA and while om defense has some speed they're extremely undersized and have already lost one dl for season and 3 lbs/dbs went down Saturday at lsu, not sure how bad but they didn't come back in and they're defense is really beat up and they've still got some
    Tough ones left.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Commercecomet24 View Post
    If you've watched om this year you will see that their offense is totally different after their first 15-20 scripted plays. They really fade after that. If you survive the first quarter against om they're extremely average it's like lanes coaching pills wear off after that. Saturday is what they've been all year after the first quarter they've just finally played a real team. Heck Tulsa would've beaten om if they hadnt taken out their qb and wr1. Saturday after first quarter lsu 42 points 414 yards om 3 points 149 yards. Microcosm of om season. We cannot play like we did against uk and expect to win but om is extremely average and beatable

    ETA and while om defense has some speed they're extremely undersized and have already lost one dl for season and 3 lbs/dbs went down Saturday at lsu, not sure how bad but they didn't come back in and they're defense is really beat up and they've still got some
    Tough ones left.
    Almost like Lane is a little preoccupied.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Commercecomet24 View Post
    C34 did you notice how wide we split our wrs and how we had some stack sets with them last night? Maybe leach is making some tweaks.
    I saw that... and we have used a lot more pre-snap motion the last two weeks so at least there is a possibility of a coverage/assignment bust instead of letting the D get set for 20 seconds before every snap.
    Everyone wants to be a beast...until its time to do what beasts do.

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    guys ... you can keep telling yourselves that OM isn't any good all you want. And maybe they aren't as good as some make them out.... but they will kick our ass and there's not a thing CML can or will do to prevent it. Quit stroking our own conscience by trying to convince ourselves we're better than them because we just aren't..... And I'm not sure this will change given the current status quo.
    Here's to hoping that the egg bowl will be that game that CML wins when he wasn't supposed to
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    There are a handful of plays in each game that cost a team for better or worse.
    Here were the 3 that cost us:
    1) We had a pass that was deflected at the 2yd line (as the DB held the back of our WR Jersey) and our WR still almost caught it for a TD. That was 7 pts.

    2) Our WR caught a ball as he was diving in the end zone. His toe didn?t touch down before his body hit out of bounds.
    That was 7pts.

    3) We missed a 42 yd FG. That was 3 pts.

    4) If we had kicked a 32 yd FG in first Q add 3 more pts.

    When the above are added to the 6 we scored (should?ve actually been 7 if we were allowed to add a PAT) it = 27 pts if the PAT was included.

    Final score, ALL else being =, would?ve been 30-27 ?IF? we had made just 4 plays. 4 plays!

    And, when u add all the above to the fact we gave them starting field positions at our 14 and 20 yd lines we could?ve been a WHOLE LOT closer than the casual fan who didn?t watch the game realized.

    Our D was STICKING folks all night, even until the end. That?s a great sign they don?t quit.

    One day this team is going to play a near errorless game and we will see something great.

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    so now we are trying to "IF" our way to a better season ? ... I feel you man but it just doesn't work that way .... IF only counts to comfort one's own mind .... Playing and winning through the IF's makes a better team and that's just not where we are currently residing ... and I'm just not sure we can take the next step with what and who we have going right now
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    Anyone predicting the egg bowl game today is nuts.

    This feels a lot like 2016 when they started hot, but faded huge down the stretch. We weren't particularly good that year and kicked their ass.

    Lets see if they can beat A&M this weekend. I bet they struggle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Commercecomet24 View Post
    If you've watched om this year you will see that their offense is totally different after their first 15-20 scripted plays. They really fade after that. If you survive the first quarter against om they're extremely average it's like lanes coaching pills wear off after that. Saturday is what they've been all year after the first quarter they've just finally played a real team. Heck Tulsa would've beaten om if they hadnt taken out their qb and wr1. Saturday after first quarter lsu 42 points 414 yards om 3 points 149 yards. Microcosm of om season. We cannot play like we did against uk and expect to win but om is extremely average and beatable

    ETA and while om defense has some speed they're extremely undersized and have already lost one dl for season and 3 lbs/dbs went down Saturday at lsu, not sure how bad but they didn't come back in and they're defense is really beat up and they've still got some
    Tough ones left.
    All great points. I told my LSU buddy, "just weather the storm". Keep it close in first half and then you will beat their ass in 2nd half. That's exactly what happened.
    I forgot about the Tulsa game. They really should have beaten ole miss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FISHDAWG View Post
    guys ... you can keep telling yourselves that OM isn't any good all you want. And maybe they aren't as good as some make them out.... but they will kick our ass and there's not a thing CML can or will do to prevent it. Quit stroking our own conscience by trying to convince ourselves we're better than them because we just aren't..... And I'm not sure this will change given the current status quo.
    Here's to hoping that the egg bowl will be that game that CML wins when he wasn't supposed to
    I believe ole miss is going to beat us this year, but CC24 is correct. They script their first few drives and it's obvious. After that, they become a very average team. If our defense holds them to not many points in first quarter, I like our chances.

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    Drop, not a drop. Still a very tough catch to make when you are blindsided at the moment the ball arrives. Just an obvious play call that the safety read well.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DownwardDawg View Post
    All great points. I told my LSU buddy, "just weather the storm". Keep it close in first half and then you will beat their ass in 2nd half. That's exactly what happened.
    I forgot about the Tulsa game. They really should have beaten ole miss.
    Ole Miss has been skating on thin ice a lot. Tulsa, UK (ties until 2:19 left), Vandy (led at half time), and Auburn (within a TD with 9 minutes in the Fourth) were all tight games. I'll give them credit that they pulled them out, but I still see us both going into Thanksgiving at 7-4 in what I will predict to be the highest scoring Egg Bowl in history.
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