Tropical update

[Johnson85]

Some video:

https://www.facebook.com/mikesweathe...01732480916146

not sure how far north this is, but there's tons of wind damage but they have boats in marinas and even what I think is a pontoon boat on a lift in a boat house, so I am thinking that this is pretty significant wind damage pretty far north, or at least far enough north to be beyond much of a storm surge.

[starkvegasdawg]

Threat now will start to transition to a tornado/flood threat. MS, being on the east side will be in the tornado threat area so stay weather aware still.

[parabrave]

Was he at the LaBerge or the Golden Nugget ? .... I did the exterior wall panels on the Golden Nugget Hotel tower a few years back and we designed and built for Miami-Dade Hurricane impact resistance and I am curious as to how they performed

Your Exterior wall panel are falling over Monroe about now.

[Johnson85]

Was he at the LaBerge or the Golden Nugget ? .... I did the exterior wall panels on the Golden Nugget Hotel tower a few years back and we designed and built for Miami-Dade Hurricane impact resistance and I am curious as to how they performed

What is "Miami-Dade Hurricane impact resistance"? Have they adopted something in addition to the IBC?

If I'm not mistaken, a lot of fortified construction or hurricane construction or whatever you want to call it is built to withstand 130MPH winds. Just curious if that's what Miami-Dade requires (in which case it would make sense that there was a lot of damage) or if they have a higher standard.

[BrunswickDawg]

What is "Miami-Dade Hurricane impact resistance"? Have they adopted something in addition to the IBC?

If I'm not mistaken, a lot of fortified construction or hurricane construction or whatever you want to call it is built to withstand 130MPH winds. Just curious if that's what Miami-Dade requires (in which case it would make sense that there was a lot of damage) or if they have a higher standard.

Yes, the State of Florida actually developed the code, and Miami-Dade was the first to adopt it. It was first done in 2010, so the IBC has caught up to it a lot since then.

[FISHDAWG]

Yes, the State of Florida actually developed the code, and Miami-Dade was the first to adopt it. It was first done in 2010, so the IBC has caught up to it a lot since then.

Well done Brunswick .... yes we design and construct for wind loads for 130 mph or a little greater but the Miami-Dade is for impact resistance ... they test it by shooting a 2x4 from a cannon at 100 mph and the cladding and composite construction must prevent complete penetration ... we added special mesh and cementious coating to our panels to accommodate this ...... and from what little I can tell from some video our panels stood up to the storm - it was the roof that was torn off

[BrunswickDawg]

Well done Brunswick .... yes we design and construct for wind loads for 130 mph or a little greater but the Miami-Dade is for impact resistance ... they test it by shooting a 2x4 from a cannon at 100 mph and the cladding and composite construction must prevent complete penetration ... we added special mesh and cementious coating to our panels to accommodate this ...... and from what little I can tell from some video our panels stood up to the storm - it was the roof that was torn off

I've done a good bit of work with Florida architecture firms and some builders, so I've gotten familiar with some practices that would be good here too. When I worked for a local state agency, I was part of the in-house project team for a $30 million convention center that is beachside and we used the Florida code as our standards. I'm also currently working on our local historic district design guideline update, and we are incorporating flood mitigation guidelines to plan for the eventual need to elevate historic homes.

If you make the choice of living coastal areas, these are the costs of continuing to do so.

[FISHDAWG]

I've done a good bit of work with Florida architecture firms and some builders, so I've gotten familiar with some practices that would be good here too. When I worked for a local state agency, I was part of the in-house project team for a $30 million convention center that is beachside and we used the Florida code as our standards. I'm also currently working on our local historic district design guideline update, and we are incorporating flood mitigation guidelines to plan for the eventual need to elevate historic homes.

If you make the choice of living coastal areas, these are the costs of continuing to do so.

True ... I also did the new hotel for the Silver Slipper on the beach and we had to build break away walls on the lower level (parking level) to allow for storm surge

[ScoobaDawg]

Too soon? Just another day in hurricane season. Lower chance of developing as of now though.

[starkvegasdawg]

Too soon? Just another day in hurricane season. Lower chance of developing as of now though.

I was just coming here to post this. Already some people on Facebook saying another monster hurricane possible. Is one? Yes. Is it likely? Absolutely not. Way to early to know how these will play out. Good news is they are well out in the Atlantic so plenty of time to watch them.

[msbulldog]

What is "Miami-Dade Hurricane impact resistance"? Have they adopted something in addition to the IBC?

If I'm not mistaken, a lot of fortified construction or hurricane construction or whatever you want to call it is built to withstand 130MPH winds. Just curious if that's what Miami-Dade requires (in which case it would make sense that there was a lot of damage) or if they have a higher standard.

I built several Beach houses in Gulf Shores all under the Miami Dade building code back in 2006, 2007. Some of the particulars are stainless steel strapping from the pilings (12 sq' min.) to the roof joists. All decking, wall sheathing and roof decking was nailed 4" on the perimeter and 6" in the field. There are many other items concerning blow out walls on ground level, high end specs for windows and outside walls had to be 2x6. I have built homes in several jurisdictions and the Miami Dade code is the stiffest I have ever seen. Google it there are many more things that I did't have the patience to type here. Hail State!

[ScoobaDawg]

I was just coming here to post this. Already some people on Facebook saying another monster hurricane possible. Is one? Yes. Is it likely? Absolutely not. Way to early to know how these will play out. Good news is they are well out in the Atlantic so plenty of time to watch them.

Yep... let that yellow turn to red in a couple days and I'll start following but as of now.. it's just another wave in a big ole ocean to me.

Very interested to see what data comes out about the lack of storm surge. Forward speed being so fast. hitting at lower tide, the storm continuing to strengthen up till landfall instead of being strong and then weakening upon landfall and becoming bigger...
look forward to seeing what Josh's pressure guage got when he was in the eye cleanly in Sulphur vs Reed and everyone in Lake Charles which wasn't as clean on the east side.

Thankful it sounds like it was not as bad as predicted.. still will be a very costly but thankfully it didn't hit houston or new orleans head on.
I'm hearing the death count is now at 4.

[ScoobaDawg]

this won't be the norm but impressive job done by the NHC

[ScoobaDawg]

Last shot from the Lake Charles radar...


What it looks like this morning...and before

[ScoobaDawg]

First video from Cameron that I have seen...

[ScoobaDawg]

[Dawgpile]

Holly Beach got wiped out by Rita in '05 and was still only partially rebuilt by yesterday morning. Time to start all over again....

[FISHDAWG]

Your Exterior wall panel are falling over Monroe about now.

Nope ... my exterior walls held up just fine .... https://abc13.com/hurricane-laura-la...ugget/6392604/