Where will you draw the line....

[Lord McBuckethead]

Ahh, not quite! Please read the Bible and you will find many instances of God favoring a particular nation for his purpose.

Examples:

- Israel - becoming a nation
- Palestinians (until Israel grew in number to defeat them and drive them out of Israel)
- Egypt - Until Israel left with Moses in the wilderness (God showed his power through Pharaoh)
- Egypt - When Joseph (Israelis slave now 2nd in command of Egypt) saved the known world when famine hit (Alll nations cam to Egypt for food)
- Israel during the times of Judges - righteous judges defeated their enemies, evil judges caused injury to Israel
- Israel - after it split in half after King Solomon died -
0 When they had a righteous ruler they prospered and defeated their enemies
0 When they had an evil ruler they suffered and their enemies defeated them
- Babylonians - when they defeated Israel for forgetting God and serving other gods (idols)

And even the US:
- The US - up until this time (roller coaster since the 1960s) where we have forgotten Him and disobeyed His will and His commands (we will see what our future holds)

Nice bedtime stories though.

[msbulldog]

Ahh, not quite! Please read the Bible and you will find many instances of God favoring a particular nation for his purpose.

Examples:

- Israel - becoming a nation
- Palestinians (until Israel grew in number to defeat them and drive them out of Israel)
- Egypt - Until Israel left with Moses in the wilderness (God showed his power through Pharaoh)
- Egypt - When Joseph (Israelis slave now 2nd in command of Egypt) saved the known world when famine hit (Alll nations cam to Egypt for food)
- Israel during the times of Judges - righteous judges defeated their enemies, evil judges caused injury to Israel
- Israel - after it split in half after King Solomon died -
0 When they had a righteous ruler they prospered and defeated their enemies
0 When they had an evil ruler they suffered and their enemies defeated them
- Babylonians - when they defeated Israel for forgetting God and serving other gods (idols)

And even the US:
- The US - up until this time (roller coaster since the 1960s) where we have forgotten Him and disobeyed His will and His commands (we will see what our future holds)

Amen! +1

[SheltonChoked]

Ahh, not quite! Please read the Bible and you will find many instances of God favoring a particular nation for his purpose.

0 When they had a righteous ruler they prospered and defeated their enemies
0 When they had an evil ruler they suffered and their enemies defeated them

We are not God's Chosen Nation. Never have been.

And that's all Old Testament. Who was "God's chosen nation" between 1030 BC until, I assume, 312 AD when Constantine became the first Christian Emperor?
And who was it again from 476 AD when Rome fell until 1776?

Did he stop having one? Or did he choose a nation that literally did not know the Judaeo-Christian God at all?

[BeardoMSU]

Not sure.

They are not close to my line yet...

Kneeling. Why is it a big deal? The party line is "it's disrespectful". First, since when is kneeling, disrespectful? Is it disrespectful to God when you kneel in Church? They are being more respectful than the Fans in the stands are milling around the concourse, getting concessions, talking/texting on their phones, in the bathroom, etc.

Paid college players? You mean like has happened since at least Bear and Vaught in the 1950's?

Mascots changed? Like has happened since at least Stanford in the 1920's and MSU in 1960?

Athletes making demands? Like has happened in all sports, ever?

Exactly.

And again, we're talking about a flag that was adopted by the MS legislation (without a people's vote) as a middle finger to black people and all the people north of the Mason-Dixon Line. Period. Nothing about that flag says "history", "heritage", "honor", or whatever positive descriptor you want to use. Why you guys insist on dying on this hill is ****ing mind boggling.

[DownwardDawg]

Exactly.

And again, we're talking about a flag that was adopted by the MS legislation (without a people's vote) as a middle finger to black people and all the people north of the Mason-Dixon Line. Period. Nothing about that flag says "history", "heritage", "honor", or whatever positive descriptor you want to use. Why you guys insist on dying on this hill is ****ing mind boggling.

Who insists on "dying on this hill"? I don't see anyone here, especially on this thread you replied to, that wants to keep the state flag. You are the only poster that mentioned the flag.

[Dawg2003]

The line is different for different people, but removing the Confederate flag seems pretty unanimous.

[Duckdog]

So let's have ANOTHER state vote. I bet thr flag wont change.

[ShotgunDawg]

So let's have ANOTHER state vote. I bet thr flag wont change.

Can't do a vote here. It just has to be done.

The politicians of Mississippi need to stand for what is right here. Even if it means they don't win re-election, at least they'll be on the right side of history & history will treat their name well.

[Leroy Jenkins]

Can't do a vote here. It just has to be done.

Hopefully, one day you dont find yourself on the other end of this sword.

[ShotgunDawg]

Hopefully, one day you dont find yourself on the other end of this sword.

I understand your point, but I'll do my best to understand the difference between right & wrong in an effort to make sure that doesn't happen

[Mimi's Babies]

Can't do a vote here. It just has to be done.

The politicians of Mississippi need to stand for what is right here. Even if it means they don't win re-election, at least they'll be on the right side of history & history will treat their name well.

According to State Senators, there are back room deals being done by the democrats in Jackson as late as this pm. There is a vote scheduled in the House on Monday or Tuesday. People are asking for the names of all people involved.... This crap has happened in ever Presidential elections year... 2008, 2012, 2016 and 2020... That includes the flag crap, riots, race, etc... Look back and you will see what is going on. There are those that want all of your freedoms... If people don't STAND for something then they will FALL for anything.... They are coming for your guns next.... watch DC....

[BeardoMSU]

According to State Senators, there are back room deals being done by the democrats in Jackson as late as this pm. There is a vote scheduled in the House on Monday or Tuesday. People are asking for the names of all people involved.... This crap has happened in ever Presidential elections year... 2008, 2012, 2016 and 2020... That includes the flag crap, riots, race, etc... Look back and you will see what is going on. There are those that want all of your freedoms... If people don't STAND for something then they will FALL for anything.... They are coming for your guns next.... watch DC....

I haven't missed you Mimi. FFS.

[Mjoelner34]

They are coming for your guns next.... watch DC....

I don't have any. I sold my entire arsenal along with the ammo to some guy they called El Gato. That must have been his fraternity nickname because I heard them say something about Zetas. Just putting that out there so nobody wastes their time searching my house or my vehicle.

[HoopsDawg]

So let's have ANOTHER state vote. I bet thr flag wont change.

can't vote. Too many morons in MS.

[HoopsDawg]

I don't know, but it's somewhere after changing the damn state flag.

What's going on right now in MLB is really trying my patience though.

[Captain Falcon]

I think everything has to be viewed on a case by case basis.

[William Tecumsah Sherman]

Exactly, Captain Falcon. Somehow, we?ve lost the ability to so that. We?ve lost common sense.

[LC Dawg]

I guess I would draw the line on watching and supporting sports when watching and supporting sports is not enjoyable to me anymore.

[R2Dawg]

I apologize if this gets political but I would ask that we control the debating here and keep it mature.

Where do you draw the line? At what point in all this craziness will you decide to quit sports? Kneeling? Paid college players? Mascots changed? Athletes making demands. At some point it will effect revenue at the pro level. I have my feelings but it sucks every way we look at from a tradition standpoint. I want the best for everyone involved and that means there is give and take but at some point I will quit pro sports if it goes to far.

Sports used to be the diversion that brought some people together; now it is the dividing rod of hatred. Our sports issues are just a manifestation of the rest of our culture as well. This didn't happen over night. Our spiritual and moral condition has been deteriorating for decades and finally coming to a head. Now some will say we are advancing. Look at the proof, not sure how anyone can buy that. Simply not true.

[Cowbell]

Sports used to be the diversion that brought some people together; now it is the dividing rod of hatred. Our sports issues are just a manifestation of the rest of our culture as well. This didn't happen over night. Our spiritual and moral condition has been deteriorating for decades and finally coming to a head. Now some will say we are advancing. Look at the proof, not sure how anyone can buy that. Simply not true.

Great response - I'm starting to lose my love for sports. I use hunting as my getaway from the real world and sports use to be the same. I still love college football and baseball as much as anyone but I'm starting to question it with everything else.