The end of the half debacle yesterday....

[Todd4State]

Per Dan's post game inteview, Dak had to call the second timeout because we lined up incorrectly. And also from the postgame interview- and I'm kind of reading between the lines here a little bit- I think what happened was we run the curl and the assistant coach assumed that we wanted to go with a field goal, but Dan wanted to try a hail Mary.

[CadaverDawg]

Per Dan's post game inteview, Dak had to call the second timeout because we lined up incorrectly. And also from the postgame interview- and I'm kind of reading between the lines here a little bit- I think what happened was we run the curl and the assistant coach assumed that we wanted to go with a field goal, but Dan wanted to try a hail Mary.

Wow, so again, all of those were on coaching. Color me shocked.

[Coach34]

Per Dan's post game inteview, Dak had to call the second timeout because we lined up incorrectly. And also from the postgame interview- and I'm kind of reading between the lines here a little bit- I think what happened was we run the curl and the assistant coach assumed that we wanted to go with a field goal, but Dan wanted to try a hail Mary.

You got it part right

We lined up wrong- Dakota called the wrong formation. Dakota made the mistake
So, because of Dakota's mistake- we had to call our last time-out.
The Assistant coach knew we were trying to get in position for the FG
We threw the curl to get in position for the FG and to try and get the 1st down or at worst clock the ball- because now we were out of TO's
The dumbass Assistant sent the FG team out- not realizing we didnt have a time-out left. Or he had no idea of the time left.

The Assistant completely ****ed it up. Remember, you get what you pay for in assistant salaries.

It all falls back on Mullen ultimately- but you had Dakota mess up the formation making us unable to run the play called- then an assistant doing something incredibly stupid.

[BoomBoom]

You got it part right

We lined up wrong- Dakota called the wrong formation. Dakota made the mistake
So, because of Dakota's mistake- we had to call our last time-out.
The Assistant coach knew we were trying to get in position for the FG
We threw the curl to get in position for the FG and to try and get the 1st down or at worst clock the ball- because now we were out of TO's
The dumbass Assistant sent the FG team out- not realizing we didnt have a time-out left. Or he had no idea of the time left.

The Assistant completely ****ed it up. Remember, you get what you pay for in assistant salaries.

It all falls back on Mullen ultimately- but you had Dakota mess up the formation making us unable to run the play called- then an assistant doing something incredibly stupid.

Yes, the assisstant screwed up, but that is completely irrelevant. The drop back pass call was dumb in that situation and led to the sack. We came out in the wrong formation out of a TO, and that is on coaching. But worse, there is no way you get a second play off after an 8 yard curl there. That call is just stupid. I thought that's what Dan was chewing the assisstant out for, it just makes it worse that it wasn't.

[Coach34]

Yes, the assisstant screwed up, but that is completely irrelevant. The drop back pass call was dumb in that situation and led to the sack. We came out in the wrong formation out of a TO, and that is on coaching. But worse, there is no way you get a second play off after an 8 yard curl there. That call is just stupid. I thought that's what Dan was chewing the assisstant out for, it just makes it worse that it wasn't.

I totally agree on the bad playcall that led to the sack- it goes back to my RTGDB motto. Run the ball- get 4 -5 yards and get ourselves into position for the FG

[CadaverDawg]

I totally agree on the bad playcall that led to the sack- it goes back to my RTGDB motto. Run the ball- get 4 -5 yards and get ourselves into position for the FG

Yep. The RTDB quote is the ultimate answer to yesterday. There are several issues, but that issue was the biggest

[CadaverDawg]

Yes, the assisstant screwed up, but that is completely irrelevant. The drop back pass call was dumb in that situation and led to the sack. We came out in the wrong formation out of a TO, and that is on coaching. But worse, there is no way you get a second play off after an 8 yard curl there. That call is just stupid. I thought that's what Dan was chewing the assisstant out for, it just makes it worse that it wasn't.

Exactly. It's even worse to know that Dan thought the curl was the right call.

Again, Several players messed up yesterday, and Dak turned it over too much. But to act like that debacle at the end of the half wasn't Mullen's fault is just trying to deny the obvious.

[Coach34]

Exactly. It's even worse to know that Dan thought the curl was the right call.
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wtf do you think he should run with no time-outs from the 44 and only 20 seconds left on 2nd and 21? With the defense guarding the sideline?

[BoomBoom]

wtf do you think he should run with no time-outs from the 44 and only 20 seconds left on 2nd and 21? With the defense guarding the sideline?

A play that has a small chance of succeeding is way better than one with zero chance of success. Throw a damn jump ball to Wilson. Something over the middle but past the 1st down marker at least gives a chance of spiking it. Malcolm is an option there. A GD hook and ladder. Idiotic play calls like that 8 yard curl are why fans are ready for a change, and defending it just means nothing will change absent firing Mullen.

[CadaverDawg]

A play that has a small chance of succeeding is way better than one with zero chance of success. Throw a damn jump ball to Wilson. Something over the middle but past the 1st down marker at least gives a chance of spiking it. Malcolm is an option there. A GD hook and ladder. Idiotic play calls like that 8 yard curl are why fans are ready for a change, and defending it just means nothing will change absent firing Mullen.

Exactly. I'm not believing this is having to be explained.

[Coach34]

A play that has a small chance of succeeding is way better than one with zero chance of success. Throw a damn jump ball to Wilson. Something over the middle but past the 1st down marker at least gives a chance of spiking it. Malcolm is an option there. A GD hook and ladder. Idiotic play calls like that 8 yard curl are why fans are ready for a change, and defending it just means nothing will change absent firing Mullen.

it was 2nd and 21- we werent completing anything there vs a loose Secondary with less than 20 seconds left. The curl was the only call short of something to possible get OOB.

Unintelligent bitching has been a problem for our fanbase for years- and bitching about that call is just another example. The bitching should be about the playcall on the sack- it took us out of any scoring chance at that point.

[CadaverDawg]

wtf do you think he should run with no time-outs from the 44 and only 20 seconds left on 2nd and 21? With the defense guarding the sideline?

Are you freaking kidding me??! You claim to be a "Coach" and you say that was the best play he could have run?? You have GOT to either run something along the sidelines, or something that can get you to the sidelines out of the backfield, or else throw it beyond the first down marker where the clock will stop if it's caught. And if you don't think any of those things are possible, and you have no more timeouts, you either throw one towards the end zone, or try a long field goal. But you DEFINITELY don't run a damn 8 yard pass pattern that without a doubt ends the half if it's caught.

And we only had 13 seconds left when he called that play...not 20. Holy hell, i am in shock that you asked that.