Here is where we are Part 2

[msstate7]

Looks like it's Napier or Judge.

The job is Napier's if Baylor doesn't come open or Judge's if Napier goes to Baylor.

Baylor is Napier's preference (shitty schedule, private school, Texas, more than 4 year contract) & he'll attempt to elongate this till after the bowl game.

If we do end up with judge (doubtful imo), he needs to surround himself with college coaches, not guys in the nfl.

[ShotgunDawg]

If we do end up with judge (doubtful imo), he needs to surround himself with college coaches, not guys in the nfl.

I think he will.

Can't deny though that he should know how to run a football program.

[hacker]

I don't get the shitty schedule thing. If you're good, wouldn't you want to compete with the best?

[ScoobaDawg]

Looks like it's Napier or Judge.

The job is Napier's if Baylor doesn't come open or Judge's if Napier goes to Baylor.

Baylor is Napier's preference (shitty schedule, private school, Texas, more than 4 year contract) & he'll attempt to elongate this till after the bowl game.

It's you..so i don't believe it because you freak at everything that doesn't go right... but what's the source of that?

[Really Clark?]

If we do end up with judge (doubtful imo), he needs to surround himself with college coaches, not guys in the nfl.

Steve is reporting he will do that, in fact reaching out to possible coaches with SEC ties to bring on board. Very interested in our job and will interview after interviewing with the Giants

[Really Clark?]

It's you..so i don't believe it because you freak at everything that doesn't go right... but what's the source of that?

Steve reported that a little while ago

[Bothrops]

It's gonna be Napier if he's our #1. He won't turn down the final offer. It would be one of the weirdest things in coaching carousel history if he did.

[ShotgunDawg]

I really want to want Judge because I believe in his pedigree, but damn I want to see him call plays or do something besides just be Belichick's right hand man.

[msstate7]

Steve is reporting he will do that, in fact reaching out to possible coaches with SEC ties to bring on board. Very interested in our job and will interview after interviewing with the Giants

Guessing he'd hire an OC and DC, and let them do their job with him over ST?

[Reunion Dog]

The Dallas Cowboys would argue your point on Special Teams coaching..

[ShotgunDawg]

It's gonna be Napier if he's our #1. He won't turn down the final offer. It would be one of the weirdest things in coaching carousel history if he did.

I'm much more concerned about Napier preferring Baylor than I am about him not wanting to come to Mississippi State

Of course the other side of this is that the Baylor angle could being blown out of proportion by the Napier side in an effort to gain contract leverage.

Think about this from Napier's agent's side: MSU has other candidates as leverage in negotiation. What does Napier have? ULL? Come on.... Napier needs a leverage point from which to negotiate with MSU & Baylor appears to be the angle IMO

[ShotgunDawg]

Guessing he'd hire an OC and DC, and let them do their job with him over ST?

Judge is also the WR coach for the Patriots. Not sure why he just gets called Special Teams coach.

Problem is that is that WR coach is the same position Getsy had with the Packers. Not exactly an SEC head coach caliber position

https://www.patriots.com/team/coaches-roster/joe-judge

[ScoobaDawg]

Steve reported that a little while ago

Thanks. just saw it...

[DogsofAnarchy]

Judge is also the WR coach for the Patriots. Not sure why he just gets called Special Teams coach.

Problem is that is that WR coach is the same position Getsy had with the Packers. Not exactly an SEC head coach caliber position

https://www.patriots.com/team/coaches-roster/joe-judge

He does not match what Cohen said he was hiring today. No experience as a head coach is a recipe for disaster in this league.

[ShotgunDawg]

He does not match what Cohen said he was hiring today. No experience as a head coach is a recipe for disaster in this league.

I hope he's our head coach someday, but I don't love the idea of it now.

I feel like in many ways being an NFL is easier. No recruiting & you have a GM. All you have to do is coach football. College football is so much more than that.

I've often thought about that. What if a college football team hired a GM who was in charge of player evaluation & decisions & then hired a football coach under him?

[msstate7]

Judge is also the WR coach for the Patriots. Not sure why he just gets called Special Teams coach.

Problem is that is that WR coach is the same position Getsy had with the Packers. Not exactly an SEC head coach caliber position

https://www.patriots.com/team/coaches-roster/joe-judge

He's been ST cood since 2015. There's no shame in that... that's his speciality

[msstate7]

I hope he's our head coach someday, but I don't love the idea of it now.

I feel like in many ways being an NFL is easier. No recruiting & you have a GM. All you have to do is coach football. College football is so much more than that.

I've often thought about that. What if a college football team hired a GM who was in charge of player evaluation & decisions & then hired a football coach under him?

Saban disagrees

[ShotgunDawg]

He's been ST cood since 2015. There's no shame in that... that's his speciality

He's also the WR coach though, which is kind of big deal because it means he has legit offensive experience.

[ShotgunDawg]

Saban disagrees

Depends on the coach. Saban is the best recruiter of all time, so college is obviously his fit.

I do think Saban would've been successful in the NFL in time. Wasn't there long enough

[msstate7]

Depends on the coach. Saban is the best recruiter of all time, so college is obviously his fit.

I do think Saban would've been successful in the NFL in time. Wasn't there long enough

You could be right, but he wouldn't be able to stack the deck in the nfl