Carter Stewart

[Todd4State]

And here’s Powers’ latest tweet which seems to be backing off the JUCO statement he claimed with 100% certainty. Lol.

Matt Powers Tweet

Haven’t heard anything new since the weekend. Know he was really looking JUCO, which has been picked up by others as well but it may not be the final decision. Probably the kind of thing that needs some time after the initial not signing sets in and the real decision making comes

Powers was literally the only one reporting JUCO- and most of the "other" people reporting it were going off of his report. The fact that he is a reporter making what amounts to an educated guess as to what JUCO Stewart would even go to tells me everything I need to know. Of course then there were the reputable media people wondering where the hell the JUCO rumors were coming from which was also a dead giveaway.

Powers is either wrong or going to have a blind squirrel finds a nut moment. All around pretty irresponsible reporting no matter how it turns out.

[BiscuitEater]

Exactly. That has been AA's MO. Any risk comes up in the physical on these high priced top picks, ditch them and take your comp pick next year. Add to that that this pick is protected should they sign a FA, and that they are struggling to come up with $$ for trade deals to help this year's team, and the deck was stacked against Stewart from the beginning.

Nope. Braves have signed EVERY 1st round pick since ~ '95. Hopefully, Stewart doesn't make a choice until we get a pitching coach.

[BiscuitEater]

The more I think about it, it actually doesn't require the braves to be that concerned for them to lowball Stewart so hard. As long as they offer 40% of slot (or whatever the minimum is), they aren't really punished because of the compensatory pick next year.

NO team drafts a player .. unless they are relatively sure they can sign them. There were 30 first round picks .. 27/30 (90%) signed.

THREE didn't sign ..

Atlanta Braves - no. 8 RHP Carter Stewart
Arizona Diamondbacks - no. 25 SS Matt McLain
Los Angeles Dodgers - no. 30 RHP J.T. Ginn

McLain is headed to UCLA, while Stewart and Ginn will join Mississippi State's roster.

[RocketCityDawg]

Nope. Braves have signed EVERY 1st round pick since ~ '95. Hopefully, Stewart doesn't make a choice until we get a pitching coach.

This is AA's first draft as GM of the Braves. So, what the Braves have done in the past is irrelevant to AA's MO.

[Johnson85]

The braves lost any shot at signing hess too though by not signing Stewart. Next season, the braves get the pick at 9 now, but pretty sure the amount of money they can spend in early rounds is the same. So getting 2 really good players in the 1st round will be tough.

This was the first pick for the braves' brand new GM. I don't think there is any way he took Stewart with the idea he might not sign him. I think right or wrong, the braves are clearly concerned over the wrist

Think this is wrong. Based on what someone else has said without a source, but I think they have to be right because I can't believe the team owners would sign on to a system where they essentially lose a draft pick when they don't sign. Just way too much leverage for the players. I also don't think an organization like the dodgers would take a flyer on Ginn if their comp pick next year didn't come with money to allow them to actually sign the comp pick (either by adding to their pool or by excluding teh comp pick contract from the pool and applying a different limit).

[BiscuitEater]

This is AA's first draft as GM of the Braves. So, what the Braves have done in the past is irrelevant to AA's MO.

AND, that could've been his LAST draft! Braves front office is NOT happy about BOTH Stewart and Hess.

[msstate7]

Think this is wrong. Based on what someone else has said without a source, but I think they have to be right because I can't believe the team owners would sign on to a system where they essentially lose a draft pick when they don't sign. Just way too much leverage for the players. I also don't think an organization like the dodgers would take a flyer on Ginn if their comp pick next year didn't come with money to allow them to actually sign the comp pick (either by adding to their pool or by excluding teh comp pick contract from the pool and applying a different limit).

Could be. I just asked the question on a braves' board I'm a member of. There are some mlb rule savants there, so should have a clear answer soon.

If there is no more money though, it would just require drafting college seniors for a majority of the 5-10 round picks

[ShotgunDawg]

AND, that could've been his LAST draft! Braves front office is NOT happy about BOTH Stewart and Hess.

AA is the front office. What do you mean that could be his last draft?

AA has a history of this. He did the same thing with Tyler Beede when he was in Toronto

[msstate7]

Think this is wrong. Based on what someone else has said without a source, but I think they have to be right because I can't believe the team owners would sign on to a system where they essentially lose a draft pick when they don't sign. Just way too much leverage for the players. I also don't think an organization like the dodgers would take a flyer on Ginn if their comp pick next year didn't come with money to allow them to actually sign the comp pick (either by adding to their pool or by excluding teh comp pick contract from the pool and applying a different limit).

"So take the Braves pool from this year, add something like the money for the 22nd pick plus third round pick in same range. So maybe something like 10.5-11 million in the pool pending whatever happens with comp picks. That'd be about the fourth or fifth largest pool probably."
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Apparently, you're correct. This is the answer I got. 22nd pick is guess as to where the braves will pick next season. 3rd round pick is added in bc it was taken by mlb this season

[Tbonewannabe]

AND, that could've been his LAST draft! Braves front office is NOT happy about BOTH Stewart and Hess.

I don't understand why they didn't offer whatever they needed to get Stewart and Hess. If you get Hess basically with a free pick then it is worth it taking a flyer on Stewart rehabbing. Unless they think the Stewart injury could be career threatening.

[PSYCHO(thesis)DEFENSE]

just wondering out loud. if he goes juco then has an injury setback or bad year and isn't satisfied with where he gets drafted next year could he decide to transfer to MSU and come out in the next draft (2 years college) since he took the juco route or would he then have to follow the must-be 21 rule (3 years college) since he'd be playing division 1.

[bostondawg]

just wondering out loud. if he goes juco then has an injury setback or bad year and isn't satisfied with where he gets drafted next year could he decide to transfer to MSU and come out in the next draft (2 years college) since he took the juco route or would he then have to follow the must-be 21 rule (3 years college) since he'd be playing division 1.

I believe he could stay in juco for a second year and go to the draft, or transfer to any D1 school and go out after year 3.

[dickiedawg]

Please don?t let this be the first thing this guy is right about...

[Todd4State]

just wondering out loud. if he goes juco then has an injury setback or bad year and isn't satisfied with where he gets drafted next year could he decide to transfer to MSU and come out in the next draft (2 years college) since he took the juco route or would he then have to follow the must-be 21 rule (3 years college) since he'd be playing division 1.

He could but if he gets hurt I bet he gets a lot less than 2 million if he gets drafted out of JUCO.

[BoomBoom]

"So take the Braves pool from this year, add something like the money for the 22nd pick plus third round pick in same range. So maybe something like 10.5-11 million in the pool pending whatever happens with comp picks. That'd be about the fourth or fifth largest pool probably."
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Apparently, you're correct. This is the answer I got. 22nd pick is guess as to where the braves will pick next season. 3rd round pick is added in bc it was taken by mlb this season

i've always heard your bonus pool is the sum of the slot value of your picks in the 1st 10 rounds. add 5% because no penalties until you go over that (or none that anyone cares about). go over that and you lose a pick the next year i think. also any amount you spend in the later rounds above $100K i think counts against your pool as well, even though you get no pool value for those picks. but you can't save against the pool for cheap signings in those rounds.

[msstate7]

i've always heard your bonus pool is the sum of the slot value of your picks in the 1st 10 rounds. add 5% because no penalties until you go over that (or none that anyone cares about). go over that and you lose a pick the next year i think. also any amount you spend in the later rounds above $100K i think counts against your pool as well, even though you get no pool value for those picks. but you can't save against the pool for cheap signings in those rounds.

You could be correct. I've given up trying to keep up with the rules of mlb off the field

[MarketingBully]

i've always heard your bonus pool is the sum of the slot value of your picks in the 1st 10 rounds. add 5% because no penalties until you go over that (or none that anyone cares about). go over that and you lose a pick the next year i think. also any amount you spend in the later rounds above $100K i think counts against your pool as well, even though you get no pool value for those picks. but you can't save against the pool for cheap signings in those rounds.

This is correct.

[Homedawg]

This is correct.

Except the number is 125 not 100. Otherwise, yes this is correct.

[Tbonewannabe]

Except the number is 125 not 100. Otherwise, yes this is correct.

How did that work with Bryce Bush? 33rd round signed for almost $300k

[CoachT14]

He could but if he gets hurt I bet he gets a lot less than 2 million if he gets drafted out of JUCO.

Probably won’t matter the way this pitching coach hire is currently trending.