Looking over other message boards, FL has some serious but hurt over our recruiting.

[Jack Lambert]

Just saying. You figure it would be Ole Miss. At 247 Florida is at 32 today.

[mstatefan91]

MSU fans: Dan Mullen is not a great recruiter

Florida fans: It's just the program

MSU fans: Don't whine about it when that doesn't turn out to be the case

Florida fans: Spurrier, Meyer... BRAND!

........

[TrapGame]

I saw they just lost a CB to Oregon. Heads started exploding.

[yjnkdawg]

That philosophy of being a developmental program, or recruiting like one, will not fly with Foley, Spurrier, and the rest of the Gator Nation. Could end up with that coming back and biting the AD and HC on their butt.

[ShotgunDawg]

At what point do we let them know that it won't get better & that new names won't pop up later in the process?

[Randolph Dupree]

At what point do we let them know that it won't get better & that new names won't pop up later in the process?

I feel like we owe it to the University, it's fans and coaches to hold our tongue and let this fester a while. Let's just get some popcorn, sit back, and watch it unfold.

[Count Istvan Teleky]

Yeah, can we just keep our mouths shut and let them figure it out? No need to be Captain Obvious.

He's still the same coach that found and developed a ton of talent at State so he will coach up whoever he gets.

[Jack Lambert]

That philosophy of being a developmental program, or recruiting like one, will not fly with Foley, Spurrier, and the rest of the Gator Nation. Could end up with that coming back and biting the AD and HC on their butt.

I think it worked at Miss State because we have a lot of unknown athletes at these 3A country schools who get over looked because they are at a 3A country school and Mullen was able to find them. Put these same kids at MC or Brandon you have four stars.

[Turfdawg67]

How about a poll on Mullen's longevity at UF? Choices?
* 1-3 years
* 4-5 years
* 6+ years

I don't think he'll make it past 3 years.

[msbulldog]

There is a 4 star cornerback named Chris Steele out of California that the Florida fanbase is counting on getting pretty hard.
The last few days he has been Chrystal Balled by many national and local predictors on 247 to USCw.

[RocketDawg]

How about a poll on Mullen's longevity at UF? Choices?
* 1-3 years
* 4-5 years
* 6+ years

I don't think he'll make it past 3 years.

Then they'll come after Moorhead.

[SmokeyDawg]

They also have a thread on 247 asking if the assistant coaches were hired for their loyalty or their value. Have they not heard about the country club? I can't believe how concerned they are about oos recruiting. They should be able to fill their class from FL and GA alone. I mean, look at the brand**

[Turfdawg67]

Then they'll come after Moorhead.

If Loafers is still there, for sure. But... he'll be gone too.

[TrapGame]

Then they'll come after Moorhead.

They'll start coming after Moorhead when we whoop that ass Sept 29th. Danny Boy is gonna wake up with a warm seat on the 30th.

[Turfdawg67]

They also have a thread on 247 asking if the assistant coaches were hired for their loyalty or their value. Have they not heard about the country club? I can't believe how concerned they are about oos recruiting. They should be able to fill their class from FL and GA alone. I mean, look at the brand**

HA! Poor saps didn't do their due diligence after their top 2-3 coaches said no to "the brand". Desperation and $30MM later, they have the CC!!

[msbulldog]

They'll start coming after Moorhead when we whoop that ass Sept 29th. Danny Boy is gonna wake up with a warm seat on the 30th.

Hey ya'll remember when Florida coach Ron Zook got Croomed? Matter of fact remember when Mike Shula and the Ogre also got Croomed.

[Katdoc12]

I was told that Don has assured them its just that its early, he'll start working them closer to actual signing day & then Florida will come in top 5 as so many will wait until last minute to commit to them. If they only knew! I expect Dec to be very hot in Gainesville!!

[BankerDog]

Can't we just let it go? It's their problem now and not ours. Thanks Mullen for building this foundation and the years of (for our standards at the time) success.

We upgraded in our recruiting and coaching with Joe. Let's focus on him and the job he is doing and not the former.

[dawgs]

Yeah, can we just keep our mouths shut and let them figure it out? No need to be Captain Obvious.

He's still the same coach that found and developed a ton of talent at State so he will coach up whoever he gets.

No doubt he'll coach them up, the problem is that 7-9 Ws in the regular season with 1 10 W regular season gets you raises and adoration in Starkville. In Gainesville, it gets you fired.

Mullen pros: good talent evaluator, good developer of talent, good at finding guys for his system, great at finding and coaching up QBs
Mullen cons: not willing to put in the relationship work land top targets (necessitating more evaluation and development), stubborn with his gameplans, plays not to lose in big games, questionable in game decisions (related to playing not to lose)

Mullen was great for us, rebounded the program after we croom'd ourselves, got the fanbase fired up, etc., and for that he should be commeded. But anyone that took an objective look at things saw his shortcomings and knew that they were holding us back in the 7-9 regular seasons W range instead of taking the next step.

[Turfdawg67]

No doubt he'll coach them up, the problem is that 7-9 Ws in the regular season with 1 10 W regular season gets you raises and adoration in Starkville. In Gainesville, it gets you fired.

Mullen pros: good talent evaluator, good developer of talent, good at finding guys for his system, great at finding and coaching up QBs
Mullen cons: not willing to put in the relationship work land top targets (necessitating more evaluation and development), stubborn with his gameplans, plays not to lose in big games, questionable in game decisions (related to playing not to lose)

Mullen was great for us, rebounded the program after we croom'd ourselves, got the fanbase fired up, etc., and for that he should be commeded. But anyone that took an objective look at things saw his shortcomings and knew that they were holding us back in the 7-9 regular seasons W range instead of taking the next step.

Well said. Couple things you left out.

Loyalty:
You really, really gotta 17 up to get out of the CC.

Negative:
Laziness - He'll take a Simmons, but he's not gonna work his ass off for him.
Loyalty - He can't see the forest for the trees... OR he just likes to be surrounded by "yes" men.