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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawg-gone-dawgs View Post
    How do other schools keep players from going pro?
    They don't

    Some of you see a few guys from LSU and think that's the way it normally is.....wake up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawg-gone-dawgs View Post
    How do other schools keep players from going pro?
    Most schools don't. Even Vanderbilt, Florida, and LSU lose signees. What we as MSU fans see is what everyone else gets and we see what we don't.

    The best way to lessen the impact is to have someone on the staff with scouting connections to identify who is more of a risk. Our tradition gives us a chance with guys like Ginn and even if we don't get them we at least cause a MLB to take a hit in their bonus pool.

    Everyone takes some risks and you have to hope that you get 2-3 a year- like we will probably do this year. And then you need Brandon Smith/Landon Jordan/Regi Grace/Hayden Jones types that are going to be good players but may not be immediate impact guys. Then you need a Cody Brown type or two that will be a four year guy that has high character and can lead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    Most schools don't. Even Vanderbilt, Florida, and LSU lose signees. What we as MSU fans see is what everyone else gets and we see what we don't.

    The best way to lessen the impact is to have someone on the staff with scouting connections to identify who is more of a risk. Our tradition gives us a chance with guys like Ginn and even if we don't get them we at least cause a MLB to take a hit in their bonus pool.

    Everyone takes some risks and you have to hope that you get 2-3 a year- like we will probably do this year. And then you need Brandon Smith/Landon Jordan/Regi Grace/Hayden Jones types that are going to be good players but may not be immediate impact guys. Then you need a Cody Brown type or two that will be a four year guy that has high character and can lead.
    That pretty much sums it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawg-gone-dawgs View Post
    How do other schools keep players from going pro?
    Ask Bianco...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leeshouldveflanked View Post
    Ask Bianco...
    Bianco loses a crapton of players to the draft every year

    Terrible example

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    Is Ginn really going to get his $2-3 mil number? Is a team going to draft him in the first round? That’s what it would take.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarketingBully View Post
    Is Ginn really going to get his $2-3 mil number? Is a team going to draft him in the first round? That’s what it would take.
    It's very possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarketingBully View Post
    Is Ginn really going to get his $2-3 mil number? Is a team going to draft him in the first round? That’s what it would take.
    Looks like he will be gone by pick 30 at latest. He shot up some teams boards with his last 2 starts. A month ago he was going in round 2 and didn't appear the money would be what they wanted. Things change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    It's very possible.
    The kid shouldn’t waiver in his number. Hell, if I was him, I’d tell them $3 million. If they agree to that and pick me in the top 15, so be it and I’d go. Otherwise, I’d pitch at MSU for Schloss or McDonnell for two years and be a top five or top overall pick and by my sophomore year be the MVP of the CWS winning MSU team. It’s a no lose situation. He needs to understand he has all the power here and there’s nothing like college baseball. Just saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Commercecomet24 View Post
    Looks like he will be gone by pick 30 at latest. He shot up some teams boards with his last 2 starts. A month ago he was going in round 2 and didn't appear the money would be what they wanted. Things change.
    I get it. It’s life changing money but he should understand he has all the power here. I’d say if you want me draft me in the top 15 otherwise I’m going to MSU. You only get the opportunity to play college baseball once and he can go in the draft in two years. He definitely would be a top 5-10 pick after two years in college.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarketingBully View Post
    The kid shouldn’t waiver in his number. Hell, if I was him, I’d tell them $3 million. If they agree to that and pick me in the top 15, so be it and I’d go. Otherwise, I’d pitch at MSU for Schloss or McDonnell for two years and be a top five or top overall pick and by my sophomore year be the MVP of the CWS winning MSU team. It’s a no lose situation. He needs to understand he has all the power here and there’s nothing like college baseball. Just saying.
    I mean, if the slot he is taken at is 3 million yeah, he absolutely should try to get 3 million. The slot bonus value doesn't drop below 2 million until pick 35. And of course, teams can, will, and do go overslot.

    https://www.mlb.com/news/2018-mlb-dr...es/c-269930084

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarketingBully View Post
    I get it. It’s life changing money but he should understand he has all the power here. I’d say if you want me draft me in the top 15 otherwise I’m going to MSU. You only get the opportunity to play college baseball once and he can go in the draft in two years. He definitely would be a top 5-10 pick after two years in college.
    Mike is a smart guy and he's being advised by literally some of the best if not the best there is in this field. The homework has been done and they know where they stand and what they want to make it work for them.

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    Thanks Commerce.

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