FIFYOriginally Posted by 99jc
"It is not courage to resist TUSK; It is courage to accept TUSK."
No.
Easy there buddy. Tusk is...well Tusk is Tusk. Tireddawg 12.20.17
That list is also using a VERY small sample size. Doing well over that time period does NOT make you a Top 20 program. Sustain it for 20 years and then you can talk. I still say the more things change the more they stay the same.
The landscape has changed. What you have done the last 10-15 years is much more indicative of what your place in college football will be going forward than what you did pre 2000.
Yes - the CFP era is a short span, but that doesn't discount the changes that have happened over the course of the BCS/CFP era. The money and exposure drastically changed many school's ability to compete - including MSU.
The fact that in a 4 year span none of the traditional programs I listed show up in the Top 25 is a prime illustration of that change
If you look at this list - how many of them would you have placed ahead of MSU over the past 4 years if you were just guessing based off tradition?
Nebraska - 5 National Titles across a 30 year span, 53 bowl games, 46 conference titles, 893 wins
UCLA - 1 National Title, 17 conference titles, 36 bowl games, 577 wins
Texas - 4 National Titles across 3 decades, 53 Bowl games, 32 conference titles, 897 wins
Miami - 5 National Titles across 3 decades, 39 Bowl games, 9 conf. titles, 623 wins
Tennessee - 6 National Titles across 5 decades, 52 Bowl games, 16 conference titles, 833 wins
Texas A&M - 3 National Titles across 3 decades, 38 Bowl Games, 18 conference titles, 732 wins
Arkansas - 1 National Title, 42 bowl games, 13 conference titles, 701 wins
GT - 4 National Titles spanning 70 years, 44 bowls, 16 conference titles, 728 wins
Va Tech - 10 conference titles, 31 bowls, 738 wins
West VA- 15 conference titles, 36 bowls, 744 wins
Colorado - 1 national title, 28 bowls, 27 conference titles, 694 wins
Minnesota - 7 national titles across 60 years, 19 bowls, 18 conference titles, 688 wins
Wisconsin - 29 bowl games, 14 conference titles, 697 wins
BYU - 1 National Title, 35 bowl games, 23 conference titles, 568 wins
S. Carolina - 1 Conference title, 22 bowls, 602 wins
Fact is over the past 4 years - and really 9 years more than likely - we have out performed a large number of traditional powers.
"After dealing with Ole Miss for over a year," he said, "I've learned to expect their leadership to do and say things that the leadership at other Division I schools would never consider doing and to justify their actions by reminding themselves that "We're Ole Miss.""
- Tom Mars, Esq. 4.9.18
I hope so, sort of. If that's what Bama is going to do we all just need to quit.
If you go back and look at the post war Final AP polls they basically look a lot like they do now. There will be the flash in the pans, the rise and falls with coaches, a few powered that have dropped, and a very few new powers, and the same group of about 20 or so that you keep seeing again and again. That last group may take a few years off every now and then, but they usually return after a while. I seriously doubt that changes much. What we have to shoot for is being the next FSU type. I think we do have a shot, because our situation in the past has been somewhat unique. Very few schools in that situation ever escape......but we may have already done it. I'm not talking about just sports either. Oklahoma State And VPI might be the only other real examples.
Only 2 teams had lower football budgets than us in 2017 (Missouri and vandy). You can win with smaller budgets, but it does make it harder. We are definitely at a disadvantage money wise. Being in the SEC helps, so 12th in the SEC isn't like 12th everywhere else, but there are more than 20 total teams ahead of us.
Just got to keep making good hires if needed. And the good news is, If we continue to we can move up a few of spots on the revenue list
Last edited by deadheaddawg; 05-09-2018 at 07:49 PM.
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