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Originally Posted by
Ifyouonlyknew
Starting 5 Lamar Nick Q Perry Ado
Nick backup PG Tyson backup 2 Xay/Woodard backup 3 Holman backup 4 Jethro backup 5
Howland has learned nothing if he starts Perry right away.
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Originally Posted by
Dawg61
We'll see how much Howland has learned from Newman & Kegler with Perry. If Perry is as good as you say/think he is he'll earn his way into the starting five with his play but he's not starting the year in the starting 5. He's got work to do in front of his team on the court to warrant being above the 8/9th man right now. Nobody gives a shit in the locker room he's a 5* AA once he puts on our jersey. You think Holman, Carter, Eli and X are cool with giving up their minutes to him right away? He has to earn those minutes. Perry is 9th man right now. Let's see how fast he'll climb.
I'm pretty sure everyone is saying that he will definitely earn those minutes. And Eli likely won't be around, and he's not competing with Carter and not really with Stapleton for minutes. He's going to earn plenty of playing time. So if we're projecting, then that's the projection.
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Originally Posted by
smootness
I'm pretty sure everyone is saying that he will definitely earn those minutes.
They aren't saying that. They are saying because he's rated a 5* McDonald's All-American he's already earned those minutes. It's the exact same bullshit Newman and Kegler walked in here with. I want to be very clear here that in no way am I talking shit about Perry but Howland better be very careful with this situation. We will be a veteran team next year. Perry has to earn his way onto the court. He is starting at ground zero when he puts on the jersey next year. His high school accolades are out the window day 1.
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Originally Posted by
Dawg61
They aren't saying that. They are saying because he's rated a 5* McDonald's All-American he's already earned those minutes. It's the exact same bullshit Newman and Kegler walked in here with. I want to be very clear here that in no way am I talking shit about Perry but Howland better be very careful with this situation. We will be a veteran team next year. Perry has to earn his way onto the court. He is starting at ground zero when he puts on the jersey next year. His high school accolades are out the window day 1.
Nick came in and started- no problem. I think it has to do with their personality and attitude. What is Perry’s like?
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Originally Posted by
Dawg61
They aren't saying that. They are saying because he's rated a 5* McDonald's All-American he's already earned those minutes. It's the exact same bullshit Newman and Kegler walked in here with. I want to be very clear here that in no way am I talking shit about Perry but Howland better be very careful with this situation. We will be a veteran team next year. Perry has to earn his way onto the court. He is starting at ground zero when he puts on the jersey next year. His high school accolades are out the window day 1.
The only person you could argue on any level is saying that is Intramural, and I think it's pretty clear that he's saying, 'As a McDonald's AA, he has the amount of talent that means he's too good to be getting 8/9 minutes.' I don't think he's saying that Perry will step right into the starting lineup simply because of his AA status. Everyone's just saying that if he's nearly as good as advertised, given what we have on our team, it's almost certain that he will be good enough to earn significant minutes.
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I honestly see Eli Wright and E. J. Datcher transferring after season is over IMO. I just don't see Eli getting any minutes and Datcher sure won't next year either.
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Originally Posted by
smootness
The only person you could argue on any level is saying that is Intramural, and I think it's pretty clear that he's saying, 'As a McDonald's AA, he has the amount of talent that means he's too good to be getting 8/9 minutes.' I don't think he's saying that Perry will step right into the starting lineup simply because of his AA status. Everyone's just saying that if he's nearly as good as advertised, given what we have on our team, it's almost certain that he will be good enough to earn significant minutes.
Exactly what we’re saying. His talent is there. He’s a game changer
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Originally Posted by
Bulldog1
Nick came in and started- no problem. I think it has to do with their personality and attitude. What is Perry’s like?
This is a good point but X started game 1 too and got hurt within 5 minutes. Point is though that X was in the starting rotation to start the season. He was ahead of Holman and Carter in Howland's eyes as far as minutes go coming outta summer/fall practices.
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I bet we have some crazy 5 on 5 scrimmages
PG: Peters vs. Nick
SG: Carter vs. Eli/Stewart
SF: Q vs. Woodard
PF: Holman vs. Perry/X
C: Ado vs. Tshisumpa/Fizz
Plus X and
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Originally Posted by
smootness
The only person you could argue on any level is saying that is Intramural, and I think it's pretty clear that he's saying, 'As a McDonald's AA, he has the amount of talent that means he's too good to be getting 8/9 minutes.' I don't think he's saying that Perry will step right into the starting lineup simply because of his AA status. Everyone's just saying that if he's nearly as good as advertised, given what we have on our team, it's almost certain that he will be good enough to earn significant minutes.
Originally Posted by
Bulldog1
Exactly what we’re saying. His talent is there. He’s a game changer
I hope you guys are right, I really do but consider me skeptical after Newman and Kegler. I want these guys to struggle to find minutes a little right away. Tired of babying high schooler all-americans. It never works out when we baby them.
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Originally Posted by
Dawg61
I hope you guys are right, I really do but consider me skeptical after Newman and Kegler. I want these guys to struggle to find minutes a little right away. Tired of babying high schooler all-americans. It never works out when we baby them.
You’re right, we need to stop babying them. If Howland is impressed in practice, he’ll start. If he’s not impressed, he won’t.
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Malik and Keg didnt have any competition to keep them from starting. Perry will have to work everyday in practice to prove himself against a veteran group
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
Malik and Keg didnt have any competition to keep them from starting. Perry will have to work everyday in practice to prove himself against a veteran group
I like hearing this and I hope Perry is the type that welcomes the challenge instead of Newman and Kegler just expecting it to be given to them. If Perry welcomes it and cracks the starting 5 he'll be in the NBA a whole lot faster and stay there a lot longer than Newman and Kegler will. Nick has shown he's got the right attitude and he loves playing defense. If all else fails just play hard and love playing defense and you'll get lots of minutes.
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Howland is lost, can’t coach and needs to be replaced...
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Originally Posted by
Dawg61
Howland has learned nothing if he starts Perry right away.
How? Holman has said he prefers to come off the bench & with the size we now have Xay will move to the wing & wont have to play the 4. The job is Perry's to lose & yes he will be ready & able to handle it.
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Originally Posted by
Dawg61
This is a good point but X started game 1 too and got hurt within 5 minutes. Point is though that X was in the starting rotation to start the season. He was ahead of Holman and Carter in Howland's eyes as far as minutes go coming outta summer/fall practices.
X started game 1 because Ado wasn't healthy & didn't play. Holman started game 1 at center. When Ado got back Xay went to the bench.
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Is peters still expected to return?
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Originally Posted by
Dawg61
They aren't saying that. They are saying because he's rated a 5* McDonald's All-American he's already earned those minutes. It's the exact same bullshit Newman and Kegler walked in here with. I want to be very clear here that in no way am I talking shit about Perry but Howland better be very careful with this situation. We will be a veteran team next year. Perry has to earn his way onto the court. He is starting at ground zero when he puts on the jersey next year. His high school accolades are out the window day 1.
No one ever said that we think he will be gifted a starting role. You made a statement that you think he will get 8/9 minutes next year which means you don't think he will make much of an impact next year. Multiple people disagreed and said that he will have a large impact next year and play a lot, especially since he is talented enough to be a McD's All-american.
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
Is peters still expected to return?
until we hear different- yes
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
until we hear different- yes
Good. I think we are top 3 in sec and sweet 16 as long as he comes back
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