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Originally Posted by
msstate7
Really hope we do not pay that kinda money.
Larry T, is that you?
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If you want to be the Big Dog, you must pay Big Dog price
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Howland makes what, 2? I would rather re-sign him and invest big money in football assistants. I say 1 million tops for a baseball coach. If we can do above and pay 1.4, so be it. I want basketball and football taken care of though... do not want to be losing football assistants bc of pay
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
Howland makes what, 2? I would rather re-sign him and invest big money in football assistants. I say 1 million tops for a baseball coach. If we can do above and pay 1.4, so be it. I want basketball and football taken care of though... do not want to be losing football assistants bc of pay
Ok, I agree with this (and the other stuff).
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
Howland makes what, 2? I would rather re-sign him and invest big money in football assistants. I say 1 million tops for a baseball coach. If we can do above and pay 1.4, so be it. I want basketball and football taken care of though... do not want to be losing football assistants bc of pay
This entire post is a red herring.
I'm pretty sure Howland will get a raise after this year. Basketball and football ARE taken care of and we will pay our football assistants well (See Todd Grantham). With room to add raises as they succeed in the future. And none of that is at the expense of baseball. Not to mention not bringing Dan back saves us at least 2.5 million a year alone. We're not going to lose football assistants because we're paying our HEAD baseball coach 1.5-2 million a year. That's ridiculous. I'd like an article where TCU, Louisville, Virginia, or anyone else that is paying a head baseball coach over a million has lost a football assistant coach because the baseball coach is making more than them.
If anything it's baseball's turn to get some attention because right now that program is in far more disarray than either the football or basketball program are.
I believe resource wise our baseball program- resources being defined as people/alumni that care, the interest that the school puts into baseball- has more potential than Louisville and TCU among others. 2 million is well in line with what our potential is to an elite level coach to come here.
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Originally Posted by
Todd4State
This entire post is a red herring.
I'm pretty sure Howland will get a raise after this year. Basketball and football ARE taken care of and we will pay our football assistants well (See Todd Grantham). With room to add raises as they succeed in the future. And none of that is at the expense of baseball. Not to mention not bringing Dan back saves us at least 2.5 million a year alone. We're not going to lose football assistants because we're paying our HEAD baseball coach 1.5-2 million a year. That's ridiculous. I'd like an article where TCU, Louisville, Virginia, or anyone else that is paying a head baseball coach over a million has lost a football assistant coach because the baseball coach is making more than them.
If anything it's baseball's turn to get some attention because right now that program is in far more disarray than either the football or basketball program are.
I believe resource wise our baseball program- resources being defined as people/alumni that care, the interest that the school puts into baseball- has more potential than Louisville and TCU among others. 2 million is well in line with what our potential is to an elite level coach to come here.
Outstanding post Todd
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
Howland makes what, 2? I would rather re-sign him and invest big money in football assistants. I say 1 million tops for a baseball coach. If we can do above and pay 1.4, so be it. I want basketball and football taken care of though... do not want to be losing football assistants bc of pay
So let's not pay the only job that has a chance to win a nc to the others? Makes sense.......
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Originally Posted by
Homedawg
So let's not pay the only job that has a chance to win a nc to the others? Makes sense.......
HA HA, Spot on, have a rep!
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Louisville averaged 1,500 fans per game last year. It would be totally plausible for McDonnell to consider us even if the man who hired him hadn't been fired in disgrace and headed for jail.
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Originally Posted by
Quaoarsking
Louisville averaged 1,500 fans per game last year. It would be totally plausible for McDonnell to consider us even if the man who hired him hadn't been fired in disgrace and headed for jail.
Nobody cares about baseball attendance but State fans. We beat our chests about 15,000 fans while we fail to win championships each year. Sort of like the grove at OM. It?s time to get past that. You?d think with that kind of support, we?d be all in on baseball, but we haven?t been.
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Originally Posted by
RocketDawg
Georgia just paid over $3M for a basketball coach. I don't know why baseball coaches are generally worth less than basketball, but they are. I'd rather it be the other way around. Probably because college basketball is a more nationally important/played sport.
Basketball makes more money
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
Basketball makes more money
So why did we just pay $55M for a baseball stadium renovation? Will we ever recoup that expenditure?
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
Basketball makes more money
Basketball may make more money but MSU fans, by way of voting with their butts in the seats, supports men's basketball third in men's sports behind football and baseball. I would like to have a good men's basketball program, and I admire the job Howland's doing, but I'm not sure we really deserve one with the fan support we give our team. I really thought once we had a competitive team the fans would start coming back but we couldn't even get a big crowd for the TN home game with the NCAA tournament on the line. Right now MSU men's basketball doesn't seem to be a priority with MSU fans. I guess a majority of the basketball fans we have now have converted over to the women's team.
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Originally Posted by
Todd4State
This entire post is a red herring.
I'm pretty sure Howland will get a raise after this year. Basketball and football ARE taken care of and we will pay our football assistants well (See Todd Grantham). With room to add raises as they succeed in the future. And none of that is at the expense of baseball. Not to mention not bringing Dan back saves us at least 2.5 million a year alone. We're not going to lose football assistants because we're paying our HEAD baseball coach 1.5-2 million a year. That's ridiculous. I'd like an article where TCU, Louisville, Virginia, or anyone else that is paying a head baseball coach over a million has lost a football assistant coach because the baseball coach is making more than them.
If anything it's baseball's turn to get some attention because right now that program is in far more disarray than either the football or basketball program are.
I believe resource wise our baseball program- resources being defined as people/alumni that care, the interest that the school puts into baseball- has more potential than Louisville and TCU among others. 2 million is well in line with what our potential is to an elite level coach to come here.
You wanna pay a baseball coach 2 million? Kevin O?Sullivan does not make that... no where close
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
You wanna pay a baseball coach 2 million? Kevin O?Sullivan does not make that... no where close
Absolutely. I don't care what Florida is paying O'Sullivan because that doesn't matter. If we want a coach of that caliber we need to be willing to pay and as an alum of MSU I would be totally for it.
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Originally Posted by
Todd4State
Absolutely. I don't care what Florida is paying O'Sullivan because that doesn't matter. If we want a coach of that caliber we need to be willing to pay and as an alum of MSU I would be totally for it.
We aren't paying a baseball coach 2 million. Not yet
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
You wanna pay a baseball coach 2 million? Kevin O?Sullivan does not make that... no where close
According to this site, 2 million is in line with mlb manager pay
https://www.boydsbets.com/highest-paid-mlb-mangers/
Last edited by msstate7; 03-16-2018 at 06:23 PM.
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
According to this site, 2 million is in line with mlb manager pay
Mike Matheny makes $700K
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
And Nick Saban makes more than any of the NFL coaches except for Bill Bellicheck. Maybe more if you include bonuses. Again- you comparing our coaching job to MLB jobs doesn't matter.
Alabama football was sort of similar to us before they hired Saban. They had the desire and resources in terms of fans and facilities but they weren't meeting their own personal expectations. What did they do? They spent a crazy amount on Saban going back to him several times until they offered him enough money where he couldn't say no. If we do that for a comparable coach relative to baseball I am 100% behind it.
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