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    Bubba, what up dog.

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    drummers spontaneously combust ....................
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xtracheesed View Post
    Man. Couldn't agree more on all points. (and AJFA is my vote for greatest metal album of all time) If you can find the article, there was a write-up on how that album was recorded. The engineer (Bob Rock?) told Lars that he was hitting so hard that they had to stop every 8 bars or so to re-tune. The truth is that Lars can't keep time to save his life and speeds up every song, and (I believe) refused to change his playing. They spliced it all together at the end somehow.

    There is a somewhat recent clip of them doing One floating around somewhere. Lars doesn't even make an effort to play that part anymore.
    Justice was a devastating album, even though the bass feed was lost in the mix. I can still listen to that album today and feel like I'm turning into a werewolf or something. The riffs are so harsh, but excellent.

    When I was a teen I used to tell people to play that record in their car and turn the volume way up, if their speakers didn't fart, they had a good sound system.

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    Have to throw a shout out for Bill Bruford-King Crimson and YES. KC is a pretty tough listen for a lot of folks but the guy is really good!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeardoMSU View Post
    Ginger Baker might have something to say about that...**

    Love John Bon, but agree, Baker, although if possible crazier than Moon the Loon and John, was a genius.

    Both are in Top 5.

    Along with Moon, just because he was so original, and the most under rated drummer of all time, Charlie Watts.

    Number 5?

    They are legion, but I go with, (ducks from thrown objects, he was the most natural of his time) Tommy Lee or Rick Allen just because he was good enough to do it with only one arm. Now that is talent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiderman View Post
    Love John Bon, but agree, Baker, although if possible crazier than Moon the Loon and John, was a genius.

    Both are in Top 5.

    Along with Moon, just because he was so original, and the most under rated drummer of all time, Charlie Watts.

    Number 5?

    They are legion, but I go with, (ducks from thrown objects, he was the most natural of his time) Tommy Lee or Rick Allen just because he was good enough to do it with only one arm. Now that is talent.
    You definitely have to give some props to Rick Allen. No one has ever done what he did

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    Quote Originally Posted by bubbacheese View Post
    Nice thread. I don't believe John Bonham's importance to drumming and rock music can be overstated. He was a HUGE influence on me as I was learning my way around a drum set. Staying away from studio legends like Steve Gadd and Jim Keltner, I think a few others deserve mention: Stewart Copeland, Tim "Herb" Alexander, Rob Hirst, Glenn Kotche, Jeff "Apt Q-258" Sipe, Alan White, Zigaboo (funk-rock), Steve Smith, Jeff Porcaro. Drummers like Keith Moon, Ginger Baker and Carter Beauford really don't do much for me (again personally). They're incredible drummers. But even in rock and roll - a GROOVE is essential. Bonham had power, grace, speed, precision and a groove that was a mile wide. A rock band's dream drummer, severe alcoholism aside. I don't categorize Neil Peart as a "rock drummer". He's so unique that I just refer to him as "Rush's Drummer". A childhood hero of mine. Bizarre approach, killer single stroke speed, impeccable musicality, great songwriter but limited from a hand/foot coordination standpoint. That coordination isn't all that important in rock music...but I've seen him attempt jazz and it was a little scary. Put a Zigaboo linear groove in front of him and he may fall off the drum throne.
    Bubbacheese, I think I know you. Downstroke, nifty percussion chops with Law Of Nature, Downstairs McMahan, other side projects I saw/heard that escape me...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiderman View Post
    Love John Bon, but agree, Baker, although if possible crazier than Moon the Loon and John, was a genius.

    Both are in Top 5.

    Along with Moon, just because he was so original, and the most under rated drummer of all time, Charlie Watts.

    Number 5?

    They are legion, but I go with, (ducks from thrown objects, he was the most natural of his time) Tommy Lee or Rick Allen just because he was good enough to do it with only one arm. Now that is talent.
    Bonham could make anniieeeethang swing and groove. Swang even. Anything. Then he could make it musical and interesting on top of that. That's what puts him in a category of one.

    Speaking of Rick Allen, he was a traditional grip player back in the day. He never gets his cred. Great pocket, laid-back timing, filled enough to drive the songs but not bury them. Great player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bothrops View Post
    Justice was a devastating album, even though the bass feed was lost in the mix. I can still listen to that album today and feel like I'm turning into a werewolf or something.
    Ha! Apropos. I shall borrow that phrase.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xtracheesed View Post
    Bubbacheese, I think I know you. Downstroke, nifty percussion chops with Law Of Nature, Downstairs McMahan, other side projects I saw/heard that escape me...?
    Law Of Nature - man that takes me back to early 90s Stark.
    Law of Nature, Revolver, Better than Ezra, Dash Rip Rock, Bill Cooke and the 80 other people he would play with.

    Someone has loaded a lot of Law of Nature tunes on Youtube:

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