Coach Gautreau

[BuckyIsAB****]

We are not going to get someone from a top 15 program year in and year out. We are either going to reward Henderson or hire a younger guy that should be ready for a big job

I think otherwise

[the peeper]

You evidently missed the tweet by Cohen last night that said "if Vic Schaefer ever leaves MSU it won't be because of money"

[Todd4State]

I dont think so. He said he's given Vic a monstrous number. He will do whatever it takes to get the right guy.

I think Moorhead got what he did bc, 1. He wanted more money for his staff and 2. Moorhead is a first time major D1 HC

Exactly. Plus we need room for predicted upward mobility. If Moorhead goes 10-2 and wins the Sugar Bowl he will get a raise- and if we're already paying him what we offered Dan which I'm guessing would have been in the 5-6 million range we would be getting close into Nick Saban range before too long salary wise. That's not in the best interests of MSU unless we actually have an elite Chip Kelly/Urban Meyer type as our coach.

[preachermatt83]

Because it may not be the best thing for MSU long term?

I think we need to be careful and guard against the fact that this team will probably rally and be successful this year but that's going to wear off by next year. Yes, Henderson should get some credit for that. The last thing we need to do right now is have a knee jerk emotional reaction and make a decision that is not in our best interests long term.

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What he did at Kentucky wasn't as good as what Cohen did plus he's almost 60 years old. I'm not sure how long he would be able to coach even if we did hire him.

Agree with every single word of this. Great post Todd. I like henderson but he is not a top notch head coach. Period. I'd much rather have butch or mingione than henderson.

[preachermatt83]

I think otherwise

As do i

[justwin]

Here's the thing:

I am 100% sure that no one feels worse about the baseball situation than Cohen. It embarrassed MSU and it put our players in a very awkward position- and Cohen recruited most of those players.

So, I think Cohen is going to be even more determined this time to get it right.

I don't think it will be Henderson though. If Cohen thought he was the best choice, he would have just promoted Henderson when he moved up to AD. And if we were going to have a coaching search, how many people on here would have been "ya know, we should really give Gary Henderson the job." Probably not very many.

With hindsight being 20/20 we should have just made Henderson the interim after Cohen moved to AD and then hired someone in the offseason. Which is essentially what we are doing now anyway. I think the best thing for our program at the end of the year to do is just go full reboot. Right now we have some of Cohen's old coaches on staff and Gautreau. Let's bring in the best coach we can and let him bring in his staff. We need to try to make as elite of a hire as we possibly can.

Something tells me that gautreau is 2-3 years away from being highly coveted. If he can teach how to hit as good as he could hit, sky is the limit with his background & personality

[Todd4State]

Something tells me that gautreau is 2-3 years away from being highly coveted. If he can teach how to hit as good as he could hit, sky is the limit with his background & personality

Here's a crazy thought- what happens if we hire Schlossnagle who I believe coached at Tulane when Gautreau was there? I think there would be a VERY good chance that he would keep Gautreau on as hitting coach while bringing in Saarloos as the pitching coach.

If I'm Cohen I open up the wallet and make it happen.

[Dawg61]

I am rooting for Henderson to win 50 games this year just to watch Todd go all in on him. I love underdogs.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Here's a crazy thought- what happens if we hire Schlossnagle who I believe coached at Tulane when Gautreau was there? I think there would be a VERY good chance that he would keep Gautreau on as hitting coach while bringing in Saarloos as the pitching coach.

If I'm Cohen I open up the wallet and make it happen.

He didnt take the Texas job when they offered him. I dont think hes coming but I agree we should offer.

I think Tim Tadlock would take it in a heartbeat

[The Federalist Engineer]

You bring in a name like McDonnell and I doubt the class goes anywhere.

Even with McD, why not keep the bright young coach and Henderson that maintain continuity with a solid program?

It?s not like MSU is a losing program, recruiting poorly, or un-ranked nationally

Hell, until recently we thought Cannizzaro would take us to National Championship glory. Brent Rooker talked glowingly of Cann, that?s significant as he is a gold-plated true Bulldog Why endorse a coach so heavily as you walk out the door, already drafted, loved by your fans if you did not really mean it.

[Todd4State]

He didnt take the Texas job when they offered him. I dont think hes coming but I agree we should offer.

I think Tim Tadlock would take it in a heartbeat

Here's the difference between us and Texas: While Texas has a great baseball history that is better than ours no question about it baseball is not THE sport there and never will be. They're also in the same conference as TCU and I'm not sure how much that would affect things between us and Schlossnagle but we don't play TCU very often. We also are building a better facility which would be ready in year one for Schlossnagle and we are going to likely be in better shape than Texas was when Garrido left.

I would be fine with Tadlock. And a number of other coaches.

[Todd4State]

I am rooting for Henderson to win 50 games this year just to watch Todd go all in on him. I love underdogs.

It's going to take Henderson winning the National Championship this year for me to think that we should bring him back as head coach. I'm being serious. I'm fine with him as a pitching coach. Fine with him as an interim coach. Bringing him back as THE head coach I feel very strongly that it would be a mistake almost as bad as bringing Polk back.

[InTheIttaBenaHotSun]

Even with McD, why not keep the bright young coach and Henderson that maintain continuity with a solid program?

It?s not like MSU is a losing program, recruiting poorly, or un-ranked nationally

Hell, until recently we thought Cannizzaro would take us to National Championship glory. Brent Rooker talked glowingly of Cann, that?s significant as he is a gold-plated true Bulldog Why endorse a coach so heavily as you walk out the door, already drafted, loved by your fans if you did not really mean it.

Maybe McD would keep Gautreau and Henderson but more than likely he'd want to bring in his own guys. It'd be great, if whoever we hire would keep them both. That is if both want to stay.

As far as Rooker talking glowingly of Cann, he meant it but that was when Cann gave a shit. I'm thinking things went down hill after the season ended. Cann had more time on his hands, was settled in and comfortable with his surroundings and started taking what he had for granted.

[Todd4State]

Even with McD, why not keep the bright young coach and Henderson that maintain continuity with a solid program?

It?s not like MSU is a losing program, recruiting poorly, or un-ranked nationally

Hell, until recently we thought Cannizzaro would take us to National Championship glory. Brent Rooker talked glowingly of Cann, that?s significant as he is a gold-plated true Bulldog Why endorse a coach so heavily as you walk out the door, already drafted, loved by your fans if you did not really mean it.

Because if you can bring in an elite head coach he probably also has an elite staff that he has worked with that know him.

Like hypothetically- if we hired Tim Corbin you absolutely let him bring Scott Brown and Mike Baxter with him and let them do their thing. Corbin may just be a CEO- but if that's the case you let him bring his top bosses with him that make his system work.

[maroonmania]

We are not going to get someone from a top 15 program year in and year out. We are either going to reward Henderson or hire a younger guy that should be ready for a big job

If we are relegated to hiring either a current assistant or some young up and comer then we can't hire any better in baseball than we do football. I mean if we are really a Top 10 job in college baseball then we should certainly be able to hire a Top 30 sitting HC with a track record. I realize that Cohen did not do that last time but I think that was just because he was enamored with AC along with the bad timing of hiring after fall practice.

[Todd4State]

If we are relegated to hiring either a current assistant or some young up and comer then we can't hire any better in baseball than we do football. I mean if we are really a Top 10 job in college baseball then we should certainly be able to hire a Top 30 sitting HC with a track record. I realize that Cohen did not do that last time but I think that was just because he was enamored with AC along with the bad timing of hiring after fall practice.

Well, if there is one thing Cohen knows how to do it's hire a good baseball coach. His coaching tree is pretty much a who's who of SEC coaches.

I do think if the timing were different we may not have hired Cann. I have heard that Cohen wanted and reached out to Corbin first and he turned down our job so I'm not sure how enamored he was versus it just being a situation where Cann was the best he could get given the timing of everything.

[Dawg61]

It's going to take Henderson winning the National Championship this year for me to think that we should bring him back as head coach. I'm being serious.

that's terrible dude. If he takes this team after what Cann did first weekend and wins 50 games he absolutely gets the job. Cohen would sign him for 4 years no doubt.

[CadaverDawg]

We don’t want Henderson as the head guy beyond this year. Recruiting would plummet, as would wins. Henderson’s former players don’t give glowing reviews as a majority. Let’s just enjoy the fact that we have a solid interim coach, be glad our season nor program is ruined, and look forward to the big time hire Cohen will make after the year. It will not be Henderson barring a miraculous season, nor should it be.

[Todd4State]

that's terrible dude. If he takes this team after what Cann did first weekend and wins 50 games he absolutely gets the job. Cohen would sign him for 4 years no doubt.

Four years would be way too long. To me, it would be sad because we have come so far since the Ron Polk II era and we are finally back at the point where we were at worst and finally at the point where we are about to springboard to the next level. It would be a step back. Not as big as Polk II but probably a four year step back because Henderson doesn't have the following that Polk had.

At this point I'm not really worried about it happening to be honest with you. Butch, Mingione, and Bohannon would have to turn the job down before it got to Henderson. Maybe even Lane Burroughs too.

[Todd4State]

We don’t want Henderson as the head guy beyond this year. Recruiting would plummet, as would wins. Henderson’s former players don’t give glowing reviews as a majority. Let’s just enjoy the fact that we have a solid interim coach, be glad our season nor program is ruined, and look forward to the big time hire Cohen will make after the year. It will not be Henderson barring a miraculous season, nor should it be.

It's going to be interesting to me- this upcoming weekend we play in a tournament where Vanderbilt and Kentucky just so happen to be playing as well. And then Vanderbilt comes to Starkville for the first SEC weekend a couple of weeks after that. If I'm Cohen I might go after Corbin pretty hard in that span of three weeks. (Look at the team we have and look at the facilities and fans we have that you don't at Vandy. We'll help take care of the scholarships. You leave the whistler in Nashville and we'll keep Gene and his radar gun under control. Oh, here's two million dollars.) Hopefully some of our major cigar boys are going to have an alumni meeting in Hoston the next couple of weekend.