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  1. 02-23-2018, 05:33 AM #1
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    Talking Jamoral Graham

    Do y?all remember this guy? Him and Mullen didn?t do very well together.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mK5...&feature=share
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    wasn't this the guy nicknamed 'Smokey" ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bully13 View Post
    wasn't this the guy nicknamed 'Smokey" ?
    That's the one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phillipms11 View Post
    Do y?all remember this guy? Him and Mullen didn?t do very well together.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mK5...&feature=share
    Yes what about him?
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    he got a misdemeanor DUI in Jan '17 after completing his Jr. season. reports are is that he quit the team saying nothing but good things and thanking MSU but said he's moving on via twitter. had a successful SR season at Delta State and tried out at the combines. hoping to land in the NFL now. would have been nice to have had him last year.
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    Yep

    Quote Originally Posted by Bully13 View Post
    he got a misdemeanor DUI in Jan '17 after completing his Jr. season. reports are is that he quit the team saying nothing but good things and thanking MSU but said he's moving on via twitter. had a successful SR season at Delta State and tried out at the combines. hoping to land in the NFL now. would have been nice to have had him last year.
    He emailed me and asked me to cut him a highlight tape. Have me some insight on a few things and how they went down from his perspective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phillipms11 View Post
    He emailed me and asked me to cut him a highlight tape. Have me some insight on a few things and how they went down from his perspective.
    Did you get permission from MSU before using their footage, if not Derek Cody will be all over your ass when he see it.

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    I remember him as fumbling more punt returns than ones he fielded cleanly, he was horrible as a returner. The choice of music on the video, well......
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    Quote Originally Posted by the peeper View Post
    I remember him as fumbling more punt returns than ones he fielded cleanly, he was horrible as a returner. The choice of music on the video, well......


    He was a freshman when he was returning punts, and I let the athletes pick their own music, I just edit the film they give me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phillipms11 View Post
    He was a freshman when he was returning punts, and I let the athletes pick their own music, I just edit the film they give me.
    So him being a freshman is an excuse for fumbling punts? Nice. I'm gonna start using that one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by louisvilledawg View Post
    So him being a freshman is an excuse for fumbling punts? Nice. I'm gonna start using that one.
    big 17, he sucked at catching punts. so 17ing what? he was good as a CB. sure would have liked having his "immaturity " at the egg bowl last year.
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  12. 02-23-2018, 11:08 AM #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bully13 View Post
    big 17, he sucked at catching punts. so 17ing what? he was good as a CB. sure would have liked having his "immaturity " at the egg bowl last year.
    He had his moments. I don't know if I would say he was good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by louisvilledawg View Post
    So him being a freshman is an excuse for fumbling punts? Nice. I'm gonna start using that one.
    Freshman do tend to make more mistakes from my history of watching football. That’s not even very debatable.
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    Immaturity was his biggest issue. He was a freak athlete and i wish he would have stuck around.

    I also wish we would have redshirted him to help him find a true position instead of wasting a year at WR.
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    I said it then and I’ll say it again- it’s not very smart as a coach to have a true freshmen punt returner
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    I said it then and I’ll say it again- it’s not very smart as a coach to have a true freshmen punt returner
    +1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phillipms11 View Post
    Do y?all remember this guy? Him and Mullen didn?t do very well together.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mK5...&feature=share
    I always liked Smokey, he is a great athlete and I think Don Muffins didn't utilize him very well. Hope he gets a shot in the NFL. Good for him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawg61 View Post
    I always liked Smokey, he is a great athlete and I think Don Muffins didn't utilize him very well. Hope he gets a shot in the NFL. Good for him.
    Certainly Mullen thought a lot of him initially to let him catch punts as a true freshman on a very good team. Him getting lost in the shuffle after that, I don't know whether Mullen didn't utilize him correctly and whether Graham maybe didn't progress like he should because of immaturity, but I find it hard to believe his potential wasn't much higher than was realized based on Mullen's initial evaluation of him.

    Hopefully he makes it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnson85 View Post
    Certainly Mullen thought a lot of him initially to let him catch punts as a true freshman on a very good team. Him getting lost in the shuffle after that, I don't know whether Mullen didn't utilize him correctly and whether Graham maybe didn't progress like he should because of immaturity, but I find it hard to believe his potential wasn't much higher than was realized based on Mullen's initial evaluation of him.

    Hopefully he makes it.
    I thought Smokey looked pretty promising as a WR to be getting significant minutes on the field as a freshman and Mullen discarded him forever after a couple drops. He had his moments on defense but it always bothered me some that Smokey was never given a better shot on offense. I mean he was good enough to get playing time as a freshman which was rare for Muffins. Smokey was a victim of Muffins punishing players for far too long for physical errors i.e. dropped pass or punt. It's like he completely forgot about the player after he sent them to Siberia for making a mistake. I am glad Muffins is gone and I wish Smokey the best in his attempt at getting paid to play football. Hope the Lions pick him up and we can have Smokey & Slay to watch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnson85 View Post
    Certainly Mullen thought a lot of him initially to let him catch punts as a true freshman on a very good team. Him getting lost in the shuffle after that, I don't know whether Mullen didn't utilize him correctly and whether Graham maybe didn't progress like he should because of immaturity, but I find it hard to believe his potential wasn't much higher than was realized based on Mullen's initial evaluation of him.

    Hopefully he makes it.
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