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Originally Posted by
DownwardDawg
Mullensdsd is a douche bag. We love JWS and already hate merlens. Think about that. He?s garbage.
I think Dan is a better X and O's coach than Jackie but Jackie was much better at motivating the team. I hated it when Jackie had his unexplainable losses to people like ULM and Troy and we did get blown out too much for my liking at times- like LSU 1998 and Georgia 1997- but at least he was also good for about one top 20 win a year on average and had about twice as many top 25 wins as Dan did. I also didn't question Jackie's personnel decisions as much as I did under Dan.
If Joe can combine Jackie's average of a top 25 win a year and Dan's record against non-SEC teams and in bowl games he might end up being our best coach ever.
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It is certainly easier to win a natty at Florida than here, but only 2 coaches have done it... not counting 1911. Is Mullen on spurrier and urban level? More likely he is a better than McE, but nowhere close to spurrier and urban
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Mullen and crew were very good at evaluating talent that had yet to mature or needed a position change
They were not very good at closing and getting signatures in close battles for top prospects. Thats not going to change at Fla
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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Here is the problem with Cousin Eddie at Fl. When he recruited at MSU, he did a great job at finding players in the shadows of small towns in MS, LA, and AL and then putting them in an environment (weight room, cafeteria, coaching) to develop them like they never ever could have dreamed of at their small high schools.
HOWEVER, at FL, most of the players he is recruiting are 4 and 5 *s who are also being courted by FSU, MIAMI, BAMA, UGA, CLEMSON, OSU, and AUB. He can't compete with those guys and his little gimmicks do not work. He will get some talent at UF simply because of the location and history. However, they will not be as patient with him there and he will not last long unless he develops a QB every 2-3 years that can win the heisman.
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Originally Posted by
BigEasyDawg
Here is the problem with Cousin Eddie at Fl. When he recruited at MSU, he did a great job at finding players in the shadows of small towns in MS, LA, and AL and then putting them in an environment (weight room, cafeteria, coaching) to develop them like they never ever could have dreamed of at their small high schools.
HOWEVER, at FL, most of the players he is recruiting are 4 and 5 *s who are also being courted by FSU, MIAMI, BAMA, UGA, CLEMSON, OSU, and AUB. He can't compete with those guys and his little gimmicks do not work. He will get some talent at UF simply because of the location and history. However, they will not be as patient with him there and he will not last long unless he develops a QB every 2-3 years that can win the heisman.
Exactly. Just because Florida has a lot of in state talent it doesn't mean that it's easy to recruit there.
In some ways it may be more difficult than it is at MSU. No question there will be more pressure on Dan to recruit well there.
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If Dan has to negatively recruit against MSU for talent, he shouldn't even bother unpacking his shorts or sweet kicks...
"It is not courage to resist TUSK; It is courage to accept TUSK."
No.
Easy there buddy. Tusk is...well Tusk is Tusk. Tireddawg 12.20.17
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Originally Posted by
TUSK
If Dan has to negatively recruit against MSU for talent, he shouldn't even bother unpacking his shorts or sweet kicks...
Is this a slight?
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Originally Posted by
bulldawg28
Is this a slight?
No, sorry if you took it that way.... Mullen needs to worry about UGA, LSU, FSU, not MSU, IMO....
"It is not courage to resist TUSK; It is courage to accept TUSK."
No.
Easy there buddy. Tusk is...well Tusk is Tusk. Tireddawg 12.20.17
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Originally Posted by
TUSK
No, sorry if you took it that way.... Mullen needs to worry about UGA, LSU, FSU, not MSU, IMO....
Agreed. I don't necessarily like saying it but I think he'll be fine. Year 3 Kirby will have a problem on his hands.
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Originally Posted by
bulldawg28
Agreed. I don't necessarily like saying it but I think he'll be fine. Year 3 Kirby will have a problem on his hands.
The CC couldn?t beat OM on probation in recruiting Battles. What makes you think they?ll be able to beat all the programs going into Florida? Hell, Hev even managed to run off two of their top three OL prospects in less than two months. That shit show will continue, but now on a channel with more eyes viewing.
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Originally Posted by
bulldawg28
Agreed. I don't necessarily like saying it but I think he'll be fine. Year 3 Kirby will have a problem on his hands.
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha kirby ain?t gonna have any problem with country club boys. Shirley you joke
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Originally Posted by
bulldawg28
Is this a slight?
You are not very smart, are you?
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Originally Posted by
Barkman Turner Overdrive
You are not very smart, are you?
Your dad should have pulled out. So is your mother the dumb one or him?
Last edited by bulldawg28; 02-11-2018 at 06:25 AM.
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Originally Posted by
bulldawg28
You're acting like Hev and Gonzo weren't at Florida before recruiting and coaching the same positions. They did well then, they'll do well now. Let's be honest. If Mullen won at State he's damn sure gonna win at Florida. That's just the reality.
Of course he will win at Florida. Even winning 10 games is not good enough there though. Their fans ran urban freaking Meyer off bc he got beat by saban, and had a down year bc cam newton transferred. To win at the level Florida will want, it will require recruiting at Georgia, bama, and Ohio state level.
You are right hev and gonzo could recruit at Florida, but how much was urban? Urban is one of the top 3 recruiters in the country. You put me on his staff and I can pull 4* all day with urban closing.
I think Mullen will win be a 10-win coach at Florida, but I think those 2 losses will be to FSU and Georgia. He cannot lose those 2 games
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
Of course he will win at Florida. Even winning 10 games is not good enough there though. Their fans ran urban freaking Meyer off bc he got beat by saban, and had a down year bc cam newton transferred. To win at the level Florida will want, it will require recruiting at Georgia, bama, and Ohio state level.
You are right hev and gonzo could recruit at Florida, but how much was urban? Urban is one of the top 3 recruiters in the country. You put me on his staff and I can pull 4* all day with urban closing.
I think Mullen will win be a 10-win coach at Florida, but I think those 2 losses will be to FSU and Georgia. He cannot lose those 2 games
Yep. And when Florida can't win those two games they're going to come down on Dan hard.
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
Of course he will win at Florida. Even winning 10 games is not good enough there though. Their fans ran urban freaking Meyer off bc he got beat by saban, and had a down year bc cam newton transferred. To win at the level Florida will want, it will require recruiting at Georgia, bama, and Ohio state level.
You are right hev and gonzo could recruit at Florida, but how much was urban? Urban is one of the top 3 recruiters in the country. You put me on his staff and I can pull 4* all day with urban closing.
I think Mullen will win be a 10-win coach at Florida, but I think those 2 losses will be to FSU and Georgia. He cannot lose those 2 games
This is the correct view. danny boy will win 8-10 a year. He won?t beat Kirby or fsu and will struggle against Pruitt and maybe even muschamp. And we know his track record in big games. If he?s not in Atlanta in 3 years he?s unemployed.
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Originally Posted by
bulldawg28
Is this a slight?
I didn?t take it that way. His point is that if Mullen is focusing on that type of tactic rather than the all of the advantages UF has and the more immediate threats to to them within the East and the state of Florida. If his priority is to run us down rather than those threats, he will fail quickly. And thus not need to unpack.
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Originally Posted by
gravedigger
I didn?t take it that way. His point is that if Mullen is focusing on that type of tactic rather than the all of the advantages UF has and the more immediate threats to to them within the East and the state of Florida. If his priority is to run us down rather than those threats, he will fail quickly. And thus not need to unpack.
Go back up, he explained and we agreed.
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Originally Posted by
Goldendawg
Jackie will always be the "Kang". I'll never forget being in Atlanta when Kevin Prentiss took the punt all the way back and we were ahead of Tennessee in the 4th for a SEC championship. I hate how his last few years ended but UNM and the NCAA made it hard for us to continue to recruit. He was and forever will be "True Maroon". Dan too selfish to be thought of in that regard.
Great post! Dead on accurate!
Jackie is one of us!
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Originally Posted by
Commercecomet24
Great post! Dead on accurate!
Jackie is one of us!
I?ll never forget the time the Kang and I were out at MSU GC?s driving range at the same time. I was in awe so I went over to where he was hitting and said ?Hey coach?... no reaction. I waited a few minutes and said it again, he just kept hitting. I tried once more and finally, without looking up said, exasperated, ?Yessss??. I said that I was a big fan and just wanted to say hello. He nodded and kinda smiled and went back to hitting his range balls. Feeling like a d**k, I went back to my station to finish my bucket of balls. A few minutes later this voice behind says ?Your backswing is to flat and your not keeping your head down?. It was JWS giving me golf lessons!! I guess he felt bad for blowing me off and came over to watch me hit. We chit-chatted a bit before he left. It was awesome!!
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