2019 Recruiting Thread

[Todd4State]

I get it. Because it's a kid that committed to OM you want there to be some conspiracy around his ranking. But the reality is this exact situation has happened on our end several times.

MSU/OM get a commit from an unranked kid. Paul/David submit their ranking request and suggesting to the national guys, they get an initial ranking usually within 24 hours.

85-88 is the wheelhouse for where these kids are usually ranked upon initial review.

My problem is they consistently still rank our guys way too low and it hurts our rankings. I'm not sure how many 8-9 win seasons we have to have before they realize that we're not some flash in the pan program.

I don't know what the solution is.

[bulldawg28]

My problem is they consistently still rank our guys way too low and it hurts our rankings. I'm not sure how many 8-9 win seasons we have to have before they realize that we're not some flash in the pan program.

I don't know what the solution is.

Ignoring is the solution. Analyst recruiting opinions do not win football games. You also also win nothing by recruiting rankings. The measure is do you trust the coaches evaluation? You don't get a trophy for recruiting rankings.

[Cooterpoot]

Jalen Jordan commits to OM

He any good?

Trying to make inroads. Kid might be top 30 at best. He's a USM guy most years.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

Jalen Jordan commits to OM

He any good?

I thought I stumbled on the wrong board for a second.....

[Jack Lambert]

We have the number 4 recruiter in the nation on our staff. I don't care where you are from when it comes to recruiting, you either got it or you don't. That guy has it. Also if add in the staff Coach Jo put together they are going to have some really good classes.

[Cary Hudson's little bro]

We have the number 4 recruiter in the nation on our staff. I don't care where you are from when it comes to recruiting, you either got it or you don't. That guy has it. Also if add in the staff Coach Jo put together they are going to have some really good classes.

That's what I meant when I said I can't wait to see what kind of out-of-stater's Huff brings in. He fishes in the deep water...

[Perpetual Underachiever]

That's what I meant when I said I can't wait to see what kind of out-of-stater's Huff brings in. He fishes in the deep water...

Speaking of fishing in the deep water...appears we've offered OLB Avery Huff from STA. Any insight on this offer?

https://twitter.com/Averyhuff9/statu...35434531819520

[msbulldog]

Speaking of fishing in the deep water...appears we've offered OLB Avery Huff from STA. Any insight on this offer?

https://twitter.com/Averyhuff9/statu...35434531819520

Other offers Alabama, Louisville & Miami.

[Bothrops]

https://247sports.com/college/missis...hool-115029095

Looks like Bama is moving in on Pickering.

[ShotgunDawg]

https://247sports.com/college/missis...hool-115029095

Looks like Bama is moving in on Pickering.

Relax

[Cooterpoot]

Rankings are based on money, not talent. Plus, those guys can’t determine talent any better than the average fan. I mean, they let people like Shurbutt rank guys. It’s all a scam to get your $10+ a month. Not a lot different than that bullshit NSR recruiting crap.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

I think there's a correlation but I also think the correlation comes from the teams then rankings not the other way around. The top 50-100 kids are easy to spot they stick out like a sore thumb. After that it gets tough. Well what's the easiest way to rank them well who are the top schools offering/committing? Oh he has a legit Bama offer? Move him up if he's good enough for Saban he has to be a top prospect. Ohio St took his commitment? Move him up because Urban isn't just taking anybody. People have to remember recruiting sites are entertainment these aren't "experts". If they were they would already be on Saban staff. You're paying for entertainment not exact rankings.

[Commercecomet24]

I think there's a correlation but I also think the correlation comes from the teams then rankings not the other way around. The top 50-100 kids are easy to spot they stick out like a sore thumb. After that it gets tough. Well what's the easiest way to rank them well who are the top schools offering/committing? Oh he has a legit Bama offer? Move him up if he's good enough for Saban he has to be a top prospect. Ohio St took his commitment? Move him up because Urban isn't just taking anybody. People have to remember recruiting sites are entertainment these aren't "experts". If they were they would already be on Saban staff. You're paying for entertainment not exact rankings.

Now this is the truth.

[Ari Gold]

2019 Early Big board coming soon. Will get up with my guys and contacts before spring ball cranks up.

[msudawglb]

2019 Early Big board coming soon. Will get up with my guys and contacts before spring ball cranks up.

Awesome! I'm ready for this thread to get back to recruits names and rumors about said recruits. There's too much garbage being posted in this thread.

[msstate7]

Here's the deal guys, recruiting rankings absolutely matter. If you can get your head out of your ass long enough to check the stats, they 100% matter. In the SEC, the team with more talent on paper wins like 80% of the time per Dave Bartoo. Nationally, in the recruiting ranking era, you can't win a national championship (nor SEC championship) if you don't have 50% or more of your teams roster made up of 4 and 5 star recruits. Not signing a top 5, 10, 15 class doesn't mean you can't be relatively good and win 7-9 games. It doesn't mean you're going to lose to every team that is more talented than you. If just means, if you have championship aspirations, you HAVE to recruit at a championship level. Here's some more info on the subject if you want to educate yourselves: https://www.footballstudyhall.com/20...rankings-right

It would be interesting if someone had the recruit rankings for each championship team before each player committed and post. I certainly believe you have to have great players to win championships, but I think the recruiting sites adjust player ratings after the original rating. Ie ... If player A is getting recruited to bama, he gets a bump. By doing this, the sites help themselves with the above info you stated. With that said, I want to get as many 4 and 5 stars as we can get

ETA... the last 12 natties breakdown like this: 5 by saban, 3 by urban, 1 by miles, 1 by chizik, 1 by jimbo, and 1 by dabo. Whoever broke down the info in your post, could have just said if you want a natty hire urban or saban.

[jumbo]

247 used to have a graph on a players profile that would track their rankings

[TUSK]

I dunno if recruiting services cater to select programs... and I dunno if players outside top ~200 are accurately rated...

But, I do know this:

A. These are the most successful SEC teams:
1) Alabama
2) LSU
3) UGA
4) Auburn
5) Florida

and,

B. These are the most successful SEC teams:
1) Alabama
2) LSU
3) UGA
4) Florida
5) Auburn

note: Data is based on Regular Season SEC wins and Average 247 Recruiting Ranking years 2015-2017


Bonus Fact: Mizzou and Vandy recruited the worst, and won the least.

[msstate7]

I dunno if recruiting services cater to select programs... and I dunno if players outside top ~200 are accurately rated...

But, I do know this:

A. These are the most successful SEC teams:
1) Alabama
2) LSU
3) UGA
4) Auburn
5) Florida

and,

B. These are the most successful SEC teams:
1) Alabama
2) LSU
3) UGA
4) Florida
5) Auburn

note: Data is based on Regular Season SEC wins and Average 247 Recruiting Ranking years 2015-2017


Bonus Fact: Mizzou and Vandy recruited the worst, and won the least.

Florida has 23 (10, 9, 4) wins from 2015-2017. State has 24 (9, 6, 9) from 2015-2017. Georgia won more games than LSU during that period

[TUSK]

Florida has 23 (10, 9, 4) wins from 2015-2017. State has 24 (9, 6, 9) from 2015-2017. Georgia won more games than LSU during that period

Win totals were based on SEC Competition, only.... It's not statistically reliable if OOC games are included, IMO...

I do appreciate fact checking me, though... Thanks!