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02-06-2019, 06:05 PM
#7781
Originally Posted by
ShotgunDawg
Not if you get some grad transfers, which are way more valuable than true freshmen anyway.
I think the self imposed probation angle is an extremely stupid narrative.
I think counting on grad transfers to plug holes is extremely risky and we haven't shown the ability to land high end grad transfers at any time. What we have shown an ability to do is develop players that are athletic and fit our system.
Other than calling the probation angle stupid, based solely on the numbers what do you disagree with.
We are going to be short on scholarship players next year. We did that to ourselves. I'm not sure how else to describe it.
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02-06-2019, 06:07 PM
#7782
Originally Posted by
ShotgunDawg
Not if you get some grad transfers, which are way more valuable than true freshmen anyway.
I think the self imposed probation angle is an extremely stupid narrative.
We are getting really light numbers wise. A grad transfer is a one year deal, how is that better than a guy that's in the program and contributing for three or four years? I'm not on the probation angle but, the numbers games is not exactly ideal. The next class is going critical to get our numbers evened out.
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02-06-2019, 06:14 PM
#7783
Originally Posted by
Ari Gold
The 2 big misses we had were 2 guys that have been committed for months to the schools they signed with
Mingo and Young .. so can we really say they were misses?
It?s very possible The names Moore and Hall may Not be heard again for a while (in a positive matter anyway )
Would have been great to land Ealy .. esp for perception.. If he plays a year of football then good for OM I think it?s 50/50 at best
Plumlee won?t play QB anytime soon if ever .. I think he is a outstanding athlete and could play much faster somewhere besides QB. Maybe he agrees to that . And he still may choose MLB .
And like I said don?t be shocked if Mingo gets on the field early early at OM but it?s on the other side of the ball ... See DD Bowie. My guess is he didn?t sign up for that.
It?s a solid class. OL and DL got some studs that could be impact guys sooner than later.
Duncan and Emerson helps the backed tremendously.
Jarrian might be a future star.
We are going to need a RB to step up . Hopefully that?s Walker . Need to redshirt spoon .
Many people have told me inside and outside of our program the steal recruit in the state is Purvis . Hopefully we find his position early and he takes to it like a stud.
Let?s wait and see what if any grad transfers or transfers we get.. that protocol is growing daily.
Mingo will leave if they ask him to play DB. We really hurt ourselves when we offered him as a safety early in the game. We were playing catch up from the jump
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02-06-2019, 06:22 PM
#7784
Originally Posted by
Coursesuper
We are getting really light numbers wise. A grad transfer is a one year deal, how is that better than a guy that's in the program and contributing for three or four years? I'm not on the probation angle but, the numbers games is not exactly ideal. The next class is going critical to get our numbers evened out.
It's certainly not a replacement for a good player, but the average grad Transfer has likely already proved himself at the D1 level and you can just replace your grad Transfer this year with another next year
I believe any grad Transfer we pursue would give us more value than one of the last 2-3 guys in our signing class
CAN'T PUT A SADDLE ON A MUSTANG
Quit Your Bi$&$&?!, He's Not Going to Run the Ball More
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02-06-2019, 07:37 PM
#7785
Originally Posted by
bulldawg28
Until A&M gets real defensive talent I'm not worried. However, I like our class.
A&M signed a 5* DT, 3 .95+ DBs, and 3 more low 4* defenders.
We signed 1 .95+ DT, and 3 low 4* defenders.
A&M blew us out of the water on defensive recruiting. Not sure why you wouldn't worry about them in the future unless you don't think Jimbo can develop
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02-06-2019, 07:46 PM
#7786
Originally Posted by
msbulldog
We will get Moore, Mingo and maybe Young. Remember this post.
Killed it.
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02-06-2019, 07:47 PM
#7787
Originally Posted by
HoopsDawg
Killed it.
He meant "we" as in the sec west.
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02-06-2019, 07:49 PM
#7788
Originally Posted by
the_real_MSU_is_us
A&M signed a 5* DT, 3 .95+ DBs, and 3 more low 4* defenders.
We signed 1 .95+ DT, and 3 low 4* defenders.
A&M blew us out of the water on defensive recruiting. Not sure why you wouldn't worry about them in the future unless you don't think Jimbo can develop
Don't bother... this board refuses to see what jimbo is doing at aTm. Sumlin underachieved there so they think jimbo will too. Maybe he ends up underachieving, but jimbo was strong this year (9 wins, #4 recruiting class)
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02-06-2019, 07:50 PM
#7789
Damn Steve kind of threw a former player on blast for no inroads with Young on the Boneyard.
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02-06-2019, 07:57 PM
#7790
Originally Posted by
Ifyouonlyknew
No Mingo & no Moore.
Boy, your recruiting prediction accuracy for MSU sure has taken a hit since your move to Gainesville.***
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02-06-2019, 08:23 PM
#7791
Originally Posted by
NCDawg
Case in point-Moore, who was "committed" for a year and a half, and shortly before signing day, "decommits" and signs with Auburn. One thing I've learned from this year, nobody on a message board is really sure what a kid is going to do on signing day.
I doubt he $uddenly liked AU better because of anything he read or didn't read on this or any message board.
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02-06-2019, 08:25 PM
#7792
Originally Posted by
bulldawg28
Grad transfers can bridge the gap tremendously.
I hope our grad transfers go beyond putting a SECOND punter on scholarship. Seriously, how many SEC programs are spending TWO scholarships on punters?
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02-06-2019, 08:26 PM
#7793
Some sight called Pick Six Preview tweeted this out...
Top 2019 Classes (by average)
1 Alabama
2 UGA
3 Ohio State
4 Texas
5 OU
6 Auburn
7 Florida
8 PSU
9 A&M
10 Michigan
11 LSU
12 Oregon
13 ND
14 Tennessee
15 Washington
16 Clemson
17 South Carolina
18 FSU
19 Miss St
20 Arkansas
21 Nebraska
22 USC
23 Miami
24 Stanford
25 Ole Miss
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02-06-2019, 08:26 PM
#7794
Originally Posted by
Goldendawg
I doubt he $uddenly liked AU better because of anything he read or didn't read on this or any message board.
I think you right and ... I also think we didn't "miss" anything on Moore. We'll see but I'm betting he is never an upper-tier SEC Dlineman.
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02-06-2019, 08:27 PM
#7795
Originally Posted by
maroonmania
I hope our grad transfers go beyond putting a SECOND punter on scholarship. Seriously, how many SEC programs are spending TWO scholarships on punters?
I don't have much confidence that our staff can land Juwan Johnson, but he would be a nice bridge to our 2020 group of receivers. Guys like Heath and Patterson and the high school guys.
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02-06-2019, 08:27 PM
#7796
Originally Posted by
msbulldog
I guess we just aren't going to out spend Auburn like with Cam Newton.
Everyone knows that Scam went to AU just for tuition, board, and books, especially after Dad tried to shake us down. All while the $EC office makes up new rules for another championship.
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02-06-2019, 08:28 PM
#7797
Originally Posted by
Turfdawg67
Some sight called Pick Six Preview tweeted this out...
Top 2019 Classes (by average)
1 Alabama
2 UGA
3 Ohio State
4 Texas
5 OU
6 Auburn
7 Florida
8 PSU
9 A&M
10 Michigan
11 LSU
12 Oregon
13 ND
14 Tennessee
15 Washington
16 Clemson
17 South Carolina
18 FSU
19 Miss St
20 Arkansas
21 Nebraska
22 USC
23 Miami
24 Stanford
25 Ole Miss
Hell, we’re still 8th in the conference according to that.
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02-06-2019, 08:31 PM
#7798
Originally Posted by
Ari Gold
There?s usually one of those every year for every school.. it?s just magnified here because of where we are in the rankings.
Saw my first State game in '68. bama, LSU, and sometimes AU have cherry-picked MS. every year my entire life. Heck, Jackie even swooped in for Rooster Jones and Hugh Green while he was at Pitt. Some things don't change.
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02-06-2019, 08:32 PM
#7799
Originally Posted by
Goldendawg
I doubt he $uddenly liked AU better because of anything he read or didn't read on this or any message board.
I think his 'manifesto' of a decommit pretty much told that he would have to have his family 'taken care of' for him to sign and that was very likely coming from his parents, not him. I think he probably would have preferred to go to MSU and he threw that out there to see if we would come up with a deal in line with whatever his family could get from Auburn and apparently we, as usual, weren't going to do that. So it is what it is.
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02-06-2019, 08:35 PM
#7800
Originally Posted by
BuckyIsAB****
Mingo will leave if they ask him to play DB. We really hurt ourselves when we offered him as a safety early in the game. We were playing catch up from the jump
Hard for me to believe we offered him as a safety has tough as it has been for us to get a game changing WR.
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