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11-15-2018, 12:53 PM
#4021
Originally Posted by
msudawglb
Shutdown? We have average to good CB's. Not shutdown CB's. Tua is hurt and just isn't the same as earlier in the season. Stidham just sucks this year. And the LSU QB is average. If you take away some of our DL rush, our CB's would look a lot more average.
Of course our CBs would look worse if you take away the great pass rush. That's true for Bama too. The fact is though, people can say our CBs are mediocre all they want too but at the end of the day there hasn't been a SINGLE time they've been burned deep. Not a once. Bama had a CB burned deep to start the OM game. LSU allowed 2 passes longer than we did vs Bama and 130 more total passing yards. Against LSU, Bama had 5 recievers average over 10 ypc. Against us? 2. Yeah our pass rush is better but LSU did have the home crowd advantage too. Yeah Tua was hurt for us but he was just as gimpy at LSU. Everyone agrees LSU has a top 5 secondary and yet our CBs did better.
We held Burrow to his lowest passer rating of the year, and his 2nd lowest QBR. Bama has a good pass rush too yet nobody would dare say they have "average " CBs and they'd be exposed without the pass rush.
We held Mond to his lowest passer rating of the year, 2nd lowest comp %, and 2nd lowest QBR. Once again, our CBs did just as good of a job as Bama's did, and again Bama has a good pass rush too.
Stidham is bad? OK, but we held Stidham to his lowest passer rating of the year. Next lowest was UGA, one after that is LSU. Are their CBs average too?
Last year we had the same DL, and had a pretty damn good pass rush. Yet we got burned deep often. That's what happens when your CBs are average. It's not the case this year
How many games do we have to put up not allowing a passing TD over 20 yards before we can say the CBs are really good? Nobody does this to LSU's or Bama's or UGA's DBs even when they have a good DL. Yes our pass rush masks flaws but there's absolutely 0 evidence though 10 games that our secondary is 2nd to anyone in the conference, much less that our CBs are average
This is a holdover of the preseason narrative we all had (CBs area liability), but it just doesn't match up to what has been proven on the field
Last edited by the_real_MSU_is_us; 11-15-2018 at 12:58 PM.
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11-15-2018, 01:42 PM
#4022
Originally Posted by
the_real_MSU_is_us
Of course our CBs would look worse if you take away the great pass rush. That's true for Bama too. The fact is though, people can say our CBs are mediocre all they want too but at the end of the day there hasn't been a SINGLE time they've been burned deep. Not a once. Bama had a CB burned deep to start the OM game. LSU allowed 2 passes longer than we did vs Bama and 130 more total passing yards. Against LSU, Bama had 5 recievers average over 10 ypc. Against us? 2. Yeah our pass rush is better but LSU did have the home crowd advantage too. Yeah Tua was hurt for us but he was just as gimpy at LSU. Everyone agrees LSU has a top 5 secondary and yet our CBs did better.
We held Burrow to his lowest passer rating of the year, and his 2nd lowest QBR. Bama has a good pass rush too yet nobody would dare say they have "average " CBs and they'd be exposed without the pass rush.
We held Mond to his lowest passer rating of the year, 2nd lowest comp %, and 2nd lowest QBR. Once again, our CBs did just as good of a job as Bama's did, and again Bama has a good pass rush too.
Stidham is bad? OK, but we held Stidham to his lowest passer rating of the year. Next lowest was UGA, one after that is LSU. Are their CBs average too?
Last year we had the same DL, and had a pretty damn good pass rush. Yet we got burned deep often. That's what happens when your CBs are average. It's not the case this year
How many games do we have to put up not allowing a passing TD over 20 yards before we can say the CBs are really good? Nobody does this to LSU's or Bama's or UGA's DBs even when they have a good DL. Yes our pass rush masks flaws but there's absolutely 0 evidence though 10 games that our secondary is 2nd to anyone in the conference, much less that our CBs are average
This is a holdover of the preseason narrative we all had (CBs area liability), but it just doesn't match up to what has been proven on the field
They were burned against Auburn...open for a long TD...Stidham just over threw the ball.
I'm not saying they suck. Geez, I said they were pretty good. But they are definitley not "shutdown" corners.
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11-15-2018, 02:06 PM
#4023
Originally Posted by
msudawglb
They were burned against Auburn...open for a long TD...Stidham just over threw the ball.
I'm not saying they suck. Geez, I said they were pretty good. But they are definitley not "shutdown" corners.
That was McLaurin. Recruiting thread down another rabbit trail. **
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11-15-2018, 02:31 PM
#4024
Originally Posted by
Bass Chaser
That was McLaurin. Recruiting thread down another rabbit trail. **
You are correct (that was my bad above). Out of the 202 pages, there's probably 4 pages of recruiting talk.
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11-15-2018, 02:53 PM
#4025
Keep an eye on Stidham. If he decides to bypass the draft, he is a grad transfer possibility. He may decide to go someplace that would better suit his talents. In most cases, that would be a win for us, but hell, him staying at Auburn and winning the job next year may be best for us.
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11-15-2018, 03:02 PM
#4026
Originally Posted by
Lumpy Chucklelips
Keep an eye on Stidham. If he decides to bypass the draft, he is a grad transfer possibility. He may decide to go someplace that would better suit his talents. In most cases, that would be a win for us, but hell, him staying at Auburn and winning the job next year may be best for us.
I pray he stays at Auburn for another year. He + Gus = Fecal Matter
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11-15-2018, 06:12 PM
#4027
M. Fine will play vs Lane Kiffin tonight at 830 cbssn
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11-15-2018, 06:31 PM
#4028
Originally Posted by
msudawglb
You are correct (that was my bad above). Out of the 202 pages, there's probably 4 pages of recruiting talk.
Just messing with you.
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11-15-2018, 08:33 PM
#4029
I will not believe any of this thread on any of our corners or CB prospects until Shotgun has evaluated all of their film and makes his report. Just Kidding.***** Hail State! P.S. Anyone got any news on remaining targets for this recruiting class?
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11-16-2018, 05:05 AM
#4030
Will be interesting to see what Jaylon Reed does for us in the near future. Was redshirted this year, but Malik Heath said Jaylon covered him better than anybody during the MS Allstar game practices. Reed appears to be a good sized CB and have been told he is right at a 4.5 forty. Had a very nice offer sheet too. So, I hope he can come in and contribute some next year.
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11-16-2018, 05:11 AM
#4031
Appears Don Merlins is getting active on our commitment list....
....guess since he's at UF, he figures he can just swoop in and flip anyone he wants. I hear he still hasn't given up on Pickering either. Lazy Don.....we recruit, then he goes over our lists to try and steal. He just can't seem to do it on his own can he?
https://247sports.com/college/footba...lls-124772543/
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11-16-2018, 11:40 AM
#4032
Back to Recruiting
Does anyone have a list of the prospects visiting tonight and tomorrow? Hope the basketball game has a crazy atmosphere tonight. People are all over Starkville today for the early Black Friday MSU shopping.
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11-16-2018, 11:40 AM
#4033
Maybe he will figure out it wasn't MSU holding him back in the recruits eyes. Some people don't like assholes.
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11-16-2018, 11:47 AM
#4034
KB will be at the basketball game tonight. Maybe that'll get some people in attendance.
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11-16-2018, 11:58 AM
#4035
Originally Posted by
Lord McBuckethead
Back to Recruiting
Does anyone have a list of the prospects visiting tonight and tomorrow? Hope the basketball game has a crazy atmosphere tonight. People are all over Starkville today for the early Black Friday MSU shopping.
Bryant and Payton I know. Several commits will be there too.
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11-16-2018, 12:00 PM
#4036
Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
KB will be at the basketball game tonight. Maybe that'll get some people in attendance.
I'll be there to boo him**
I'm playing... no one get bent out of shape
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11-17-2018, 12:28 AM
#4037
Originally Posted by
Pit Bull
....guess since he's at UF, he figures he can just swoop in and flip anyone he wants. I hear he still hasn't given up on Pickering either. Lazy Don.....we recruit, then he goes over our lists to try and steal. He just can't seem to do it on his own can he?
https://247sports.com/college/footba...lls-124772543/
Its all about laziness. Just way easier for him to recruit MS HS guys that he already has a relationship with than for him to actually have to put in the effort to develop relationships with FL HS SR guys.
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11-17-2018, 12:58 AM
#4038
Dan can eat a dick. He’s not getting many MS kids and he’s certainly not getting Pickering.
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11-17-2018, 01:47 PM
#4039
Originally Posted by
Cooterpoot
Dan can eat a dick. He’s not getting many MS kids and he’s certainly not getting Pickering.
Amen brother! 100% truth!
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11-17-2018, 04:02 PM
#4040
Charles Cross was in attendance today..
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