Are we gonna have SB game thread?

[WeWonItAll(Most)]

He just has better stats, won same amount of SBs, and oh, he made 3 more. Brady is better than Montana. Who are the great WRs that have played the majority of their career with Brady?

Hey, lets not rustle the old timers now.

[msstate7]

Matt Cassel never started a college game and would have won 3-4 SB's as the Patriot QB.

You a clown. Cassell started a whole season in 2008 and did not make playoffs. Brady got hurt game 1

[Quaoarsking]

So if in those 3 years that Brady lost a Super Bowl, he'd actually lost in the AFC title game, would you be talking about how clutch he is at 5-0 in Super Bowls?

[WeWonItAll(Most)]

I just caught the tail end of the replay. What the hell was the controversy? Looked to pretty clearly be a catch.

They were debating whether he was still in the process of making the catch when he dove over the goal line and the ball popped out or if he made the catch and was then a ball carrier. One of the announcers trying to say he was still in the process of making the catch. Apparently you can catch it, run 5 yards and dive into the endzone and the rules still make it questionable if you ever actually caught the ball or not

[msstate7]

In the 16 seasons in which Brady played, 8 of them ended in the super bowl... 50%. Amazing when you consider another all-time great, Manning was in the AL pretty much the entire time with him

[WeWonItAll(Most)]

So if in those 3 years that Brady lost a Super Bowl, he'd actually lost in the AFC title game, would you be talking about how clutch he is at 5-0 in Super Bowls?

Yes, the best argument for Montana over Brady at this point is to hold it against Brady for actually making it to the Super Bowl.

[msstate7]

So if in those 3 years that Brady lost a Super Bowl, he'd actually lost in the AFC title game, would you be talking about how clutch he is at 5-0 in Super Bowls?

Wow, it is 5 wins... I was thinking 4 for some reason.

[Coach34]

You a clown. Cassell started a whole season in 2008 and did not make playoffs. Brady got hurt game 1

Cassel was 11-5 as the Patriots QB

[msstate7]

Cassel was 11-5 as the Patriots QB

No playoffs

[Coach34]

No playoffs

11-5 gets you in the playoffs 9/10 times

[msstate7]

11-5 gets you in the playoffs 9/10 times

Well that was the one. You said cassel would win Super Bowls, but he missed the playoffs in his shot

[Quaoarsking]

11-5 would be one of Brady's worst seasons -- literally he's gone 12-4 or better in 12 of his 16 seasons as a starter.

So there's no evidence that Cassel could have won any Super Bowls had he been New England's QB since 2001, much less 5, nor played in 8.

[msstate7]

Brady missed the playoffs 1 time in his career (2002)

[parabrave]

No .. he ain't. Joe don't lose SBs. I'll take Joe any day.

Joe had the greatest receiver in NFL history and John Taylor. Brady has 2 shrimps and one goofy tight end.

[msstate7]

Joe had the greatest receiver in NFL history and John Taylor. Brady has 2 shrimps and one goofy tight end.

Roger Craig was pretty good himself

[Dawg61]

Brady is 40 and just threw for 505 yards in the Super Bowl tonight. Not his fault his defense sucks and his best WR got knocked out with a concussion. Dude threw for 505 yards tonight at the age of 40!! GTFO of here saying Montana is better than him. What a ****ing joke. Some of y'all will never say Brady is GOAT no matter what cause you're a HATER. Period. Jealousy is never a good look.

[BeardoMSU]

Matt Cassel never started a college game and would have won 3-4 SB's as the Patriot QB.

[Todd4State]

People have forgotten who Montana's WR's were for his first two Super Bowls- Dwight Clark and Freddie Soloman. A lot of people think that Montana and Rice came on at the same time and that's not true. Brady had a guy that just went into the HOF in Randy Moss yesterday, and I think Gronk is a HOF TE as well. Aaron Hernandez was a terrible human being- but he was also a really good TE/WR/H-Back and probably would have been a HOF had he stayed out of trouble. Troy Brown was a good WR. Wes Welker is one of the best slot WR's in NFL history. Montana only had Rice and Taylor for 1988 and 1989. He also didn't have Roger Craig in 1981 either.

Montana is better. And to me, it's like Hank Aaron being "better" than Babe Ruth...yeah- he hit more home runs but Ruth did it in 16 years while Aaron did it in 22. Montana made it to essentially 50% of the Super Bowls in his career from 1981-1990 because he missed a year or two with injuries. (Half of 1986 and all of 1991 and played one game in 1992.

Here's why Montana is better to me- he is way more mobile than Brady and a lot more clutch. He also was never accused of cheating. But I think if you put Brady in Montana's era...Brady would have gotten beaten up to. You put Joe into today's era with these RPO's and wide open spread offenses plus the fact that he's mobile and they protect QB's...there's no question in my mind Joe would be better.

[Todd4State]

Brady is 40 and just threw for 505 yards in the Super Bowl tonight. Not his fault his defense sucks and his best WR got knocked out with a concussion. Dude threw for 505 yards tonight at the age of 40!! GTFO of here saying Montana is better than him. What a ****ing joke. Some of y'all will never say Brady is GOAT no matter what cause you're a HATER. Period. Jealousy is never a good look.

Or maybe some people have an actual rational reason for it?

It's really hard to argue with 4-0 when you are 5-3 and losing to Eli Manning and the Eagles back up QB. Not to mention Brady is a lot closer to being 3-5 than Montana was to ever losing a game.

[Todd4State]

So if in those 3 years that Brady lost a Super Bowl, he'd actually lost in the AFC title game, would you be talking about how clutch he is at 5-0 in Super Bowls?

To be fair, yes. But he's not. That's the point.