On a positive recruiting note:

[NCDawg]

How quickly we have forgotten the year where we had to start a DT at OT and then 2015 where we had to start a TE at OT. We've also had to start a walk-on which is rare nowadays- and Beckwith was a player who probably should have been offered that we were fortunate to get anyway.

Even this year- Dan's decision to not redshirt Jamaal Clayborn hurt us because it forced us to move Jenkins from LG to C causing us to break up our best left side of the o-line during Dan's tenure. And then Jenkins had some snapping problems at times and Reese had some issues with false starts. Of course Reese was a redshirt freshman who probably should have been a bak up had someone's lazy ass actually brought in someone who was an upperclassman instead of consistently undersigning most years. And thank you T-Buck for Reese or we would have had zero depth.

I'd venture to say that Hevesy's unit while good against Kentucky and La Tech was one of the main reasons why Dan couldn't take the next step and really hurt us in both the 2014 and 2015 Egg Bowl. His unit's lack of players in the NFL speaks volumes as well.

I will say this about Marcus Johnson- at least if he sucks as a coach or a recruiter Joe won't keep him around for nine years.

I agree. You pretty much nailed it.

[Turfdawg67]

I agree. You pretty much nailed it.

Ditto.

[BuckyIsAB****]

It was a damn good OL for most of the year as well. Say what you want about Hev's recruiting ability, but we didn't have many years where our OL wasn't at least decent, and in some years it was downright nasty.

2015 was the worst OL I have seen in my lifetime

[Homedawg]

2015 was the worst OL I have seen in my lifetime

You must not be ten then, cause the last croom line was beyond awful and we put lots of way way worse lines on the field than the 15 line.

[BuckyIsAB****]

You must not be ten then, cause the last croom line was beyond awful and we put lots of way way worse lines on the field than the 15 line.

Oh I witnessed that 08 line and the demolishing in that Egg Bowl but that team had quit by then. That 15 line was trying and still getting ran through like croton oil

[Liverpooldawg]

2015 was the worst OL I have seen in my lifetime

You must be 10 or so.

[confucius say]

This is why crootin’ rankings matter. Some c-USA caliber croots turn into studs, but the path from c-USA crook to quality sec starter is a lot longer with a lot more chance for derailment than sec caliber croot to quality sec starter.

Our 2 star and low to mid 3 star ol have kicked the ass of our high 3 star and 4 star ol.

[Bully13]

So or we getting dude from Kansas or not?

[yjnkdawg]

So or we getting dude from Kansas or not?

He' is still scheduled for an OV this weekend.

[IMissJack]

So or we getting dude from Kansas or not?

I don't know, but whenever we go head to head with another school for Olinemen I usually chalk it up as a loss based on recent history. If we lose to KS it really is bad. I have to wonder what MSU is not doing that others are??**

[Commercecomet24]

If Johnson couldn't coach then Cutcliffe would not have promoted him to offensive line coach. Cutcliffe thought highly of him as a coach (recruiter too). Johnson played at OM under Cutcliffe, but Cutcliffe did not go along with the Network philosophy of recruiting. He recruited good kids the right way.

Great points.

[msstate7]

2015 was the worst OL I have seen in my lifetime

Not sure if that was entirely the oline?s fault. We are a run first team that went completely pass happy and used a rb that could not run between the tackles

[BuckyIsAB****]

Not sure if that was entirely the oline?s fault. We are a run first team that went completely pass happy and used a rb that could not run between the tackles

Yeah and they were so bad they couldnt pass block or run block. Hevesy should be charged with assault for what that OL allowed to happen to Dak his SR yr vs Bama.

Rufus Warren was the worst SEC OL I have ever seen nothing but love for the guy but he was simply outgunned

[Commercecomet24]

Yeah and they were so bad they couldnt pass block or run block. Hevesy should be charged with assault for what that OL allowed to happen to Dak his SR yr vs Bama.

Rufus Warren was the worst SEC OL I have ever seen nothing but love for the guy but he was simply outgunned

Bama and unm both abused Dak in 15. We lucky he didn?t get seriously injured

[MedDawg]

Bama and unm both abused Dak in 15. We lucky he didn?t get seriously injured

OM and Bama both did, for sure. However, and I'm not completely sure, but didn't State lead or nearly lead the country in sacks allowed before 2015 Bama and OM? And didn't we have two or three OL starters out for the OM game? Now that I think about it, I think they rolled over and took out one of our starters at the beginning of the game. Sounds familiar.

[Commercecomet24]

You must not be ten then, cause the last croom line was beyond awful and we put lots of way way worse lines on the field than the 15 line.

Tony Shell played behind a really bad ol and poor Kevin Fants senior season was just brutal. He probably still having nightmares.

[FISHDAWG]

We had an OL coach at a 'cruits basketball game last night in Lawrence, Kansas ... WOW!

Did Hev ever travel that far or go try to find those under the radar midwest dudes?

Yes ... he went to a BB game in my hometown back in Pike County Georgia to see a recruit - can't remember the recruit's name now but my buddy who is a state grad was at the game and saw it for himself