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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    Pretty pathetic to be losing players to Arkansas.

    That program & ours are not comparable currently.
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    Agree. I don't want to judge them based on how little of time they've been here, but he early results are sub-par.

    FWIW, Arkansas' staff hasn't been there any longer & they are decimating our DB class
    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    It's not time to argue or degrades the kid's talent. Our coaches really wanted him & we had infinitely more to sell than Arkansas.

    To lose this player may never win or lose us a game, but it is concerning when considering what the future recruiting ability of this staff may be.
    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    From the time I saw this kid's commitment video, I felt something was off. Always felt like he loved the hype more than reality
    Honestly, you flip and flop more than any poster on this board....Is this done to keep threads alive or are you that emotional? It's an honest question, as I truly can't figure it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gutter Cobreh View Post
    Honestly, you flip and flop more than any poster on this board....Is this done to keep threads alive or are you that emotional? It's an honest question, as I truly can't figure it out.
    Seems that I'm pretty consistent. I don't think we ever lose a game due to this but it's concerning that we are being beat out by Arkansas for some guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    Seems that I'm pretty consistent. I don't think we ever lose a game due to this but it's concerning that we are being beat out by Arkansas for some guys.


    Obsessed may be a more appropriate word.

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    We just put our staff together a couple weeks ago and you idiots think we can't recruit..........these kids on the fence were committed to the previous staff and some of them were already on the fence with them too. We're all over the 2019 class right now. Jomo has been on the road constantly. So has the rest of the staff. Any kid not signing early is always going to be one you might as well prepare to lose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
    We just put our staff together a couple weeks ago and you idiots think we can't recruit..........
    So did Arkansas

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    So did Arkansas
    And the kid had a coach at HS influencing and pushing him there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    Pretty pathetic to be losing players to Arkansas.

    That program & ours are not comparable currently.
    Ha! With that philosophy I guess Simmons and Lewis should be on Bams?s roster right now...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
    We just put our staff together a couple weeks ago and you idiots think we can't recruit..........these kids on the fence were committed to the previous staff and some of them were already on the fence with them too. We're all over the 2019 class right now. Jomo has been on the road constantly. So has the rest of the staff. Any kid not signing early is always going to be one you might as well prepare to lose.
    THIS! JoMo has been all over the place. Hell the dude was out recruiting during the middle of the ice storm last week. Y'all just still gun shy from the way danny boy handled things in recruiting. Give this staff a chance.

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    I'd probably go ahead and try to get Williams. I haven't kept up with other guys we've backed off of but Williams or another OL would be where I'd go. We can handle losing a LB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    So did Arkansas
    That probably helped more than hurt.

    All Bielema showed was that he could only win 7 regular season games max with NFL players all over the roster

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gutter Cobreh View Post
    Honestly, you flip and flop more than any poster on this board....Is this done to keep threads alive or are you that emotional? It's an honest question, as I truly can't figure it out.
    Some people can’t help it... they HAVE to complain. Instead of being happy or proud that we got Whop, Guidry, Murphy, Heath, Crumedy, Mayden, Dolla Bill, Spivey, Webb, Johnson, Robinson and Crumbest... they have to moan and whine about Mason and Carvin. Maybe a 17 year old kid prefers a different university or likes a position coach freaking more. Who cares!

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    I wanted to close with winkel, Smith, Mason, Lovett, and McDowell.

    Our class is down to 28th and dropping
    These same recruiting experts have Dolla Bill and Murphy both 3star .. which is a crime
    It?s all about perception. Again we signed the top 4 players from the state ..
    Dolla bill
    Heath
    Murphy
    Crumedy

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    So did Arkansas
    And they?d trade our class for theirs no questions asked right now. Not even debatable. What our staff did in December was really impressive. Getting whop. Holding onto Guidry and heath over Florida. Keeping mayden. Fighting off tenn for Murphy.

    But no, let?s focus on and freak out over losing an out of state kid to Arkansas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MetEdDawg View Post
    It's just the nature of this fan base. Missing one or two guys to a lower tier division rival is no concern on mine. The vast majority of those guys never pan out and never do anything against us.

    If we finish 28th or 30th, I'm ok with that for this cycle. We got studs on offense at the skill positions ,the QB position, and a couple on the OL. If we can finish with a CB or 2, get another OL, then fill with the best available, we will finish Top 30. But what people don't realize in that is that we signed one of the most dangerous offensive groups in the conference. So we are going to be ok.
    Now watch those studs put us in the top 10 next season and I can guaran -damn -tee you Joe ain't gonna let that opportunity slip away like Dom Mifflin did in 2014.

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    This kid is gonna get run ragged in Fayetteville. He is probably going to play very early there however. In any case, we seem to be the targeted program to pick off recruits from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    I wanted to close with winkel, Smith, Mason, Lovett, and McDowell.

    Our class is down to 28th and dropping
    We all would. That would be closing on our five remaining targets. Not happening. We?re not batting a 1.000 with a new staff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ari Gold View Post
    These same recruiting experts have Dolla Bill and Murphy both 3star .. which is a crime
    It?s all about perception. Again we signed the top 4 players from the state ..
    Dolla bill
    Heath
    Murphy
    Crumedy
    Yep. Dolla Bill, Murphy and Mayden should all be 4 stars. Where would that put our class rank then? Top 20 for sure. Here's another player nobody is talking about that I think is vastly underrated and that's La'damian Webb, I think the kid has potential to be a beast in Joe's offense.We got a lot of pieces we needed in this class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turfdawg67 View Post
    Ha! With that philosophy I guess Simmons and Lewis should be on Bams?s roster right now...
    Surely you know the difference between home state kids.

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    We're going to get who we get. There is nothing any of us can do about the final signees and the final number. Jump on board and get excited about the 2018 season. Once we start rolling up wins, we'll gain some more momentum. There are some that spend way too much time being negative and thinking that maybe bitching on here will change the outcome of the class. Shut up, wait til Signing Day and try to say something positive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WPS View Post
    That probably helped more than hurt.

    All Bielema showed was that he could only win 7 regular season games max with NFL players all over the roster
    Lets not act like Bielema drastically underachieved. I know you do not want to hear this but Arkansas is a very difficult job in the modern day landscape of college football. You have money, but not a lot of readily available talent. An SEC school that is comparable to this is Tennessee, but they have much more allure than Arkansas, and are located near many high talent areas.

    Bobby Petrino has a way of lifting fans' expectations above what they should be. He did it at Louisville and he did it at Arkansas. Outside of him, Bielema did the same type thing Nutt did, which is probably closer to the mean.

    Bielema was close to getting it done, just never got over the hump. 2014 and 2015 will always be what-if type seasons.

    I am not big on the Chad Morris hire. Just my own personal opinion. I do like that we will recruit Texas. I still say you should have brought Malzahn home, or paid Mike Norvell.

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