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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
    None of those three were losses. They were overhyped players. I?m still sticking with Howland is done next year without a NCAA bid and that ain?t likely to happen and we all know it.
    Wow.. just ****ing wow. If you don’t think Kegler is a HUGE loss at the 4..
    that’s the biggest hole on our team right now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ari Gold View Post
    Wow.. just ****ing wow. If you don’t think Kegler is a HUGE loss at the 4..
    that’s the biggest hole on our team right now
    Kegler showed up some times. But just like the rest of the players, his development (what he could be) sucked. Was he ahead of what we've got now? Yes, when he decided to do it. But still, you guys are clinging to one player, when more than that was given as the original reason we suck (losing those guys). So, we've lost one player that was somewhat productive. One............now lets come up with a better argument that losing all those guys is why we suck.
    We suck because our coaching sucks. There's no development. There's no teaching/coaching of offense whatsoever. I'd even say there's a lack of discipline. That's why we suck. This is Stans 2.0 almost. But we're not even that good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
    Kegler showed up some times. But just like the rest of the players, his development (what he could be) sucked. Was he ahead of what we've got now? Yes, when he decided to do it. But still, you guys are clinging to one player, when more than that was given as the original reason we suck (losing those guys). So, we've lost one player that was somewhat productive. One............now lets come up with a better argument that losing all those guys is why we suck.
    We suck because our coaching sucks. There's no development. There's no teaching/coaching of offense whatsoever. I'd even say there's a lack of discipline. That's why we suck. This is Stans 2.0 almost. But we're not even that good.
    Kegler gave us 10/5 a night last year as a true freshman. His loss is huge and instead of him on the floor we are putting Datcher, Feazell, and Wright out there
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Kegler gave us 10/5 a night last year as a true freshman. His loss is huge and instead of him on the floor we are putting Datcher, Feazell, and Wright out there
    are we not starting Holman at the 4 and Q at the 3--. I don't think Kegler is a big loss. He hung around the 3 point line and jacked up 3s. Maybe He would have been a lot better this year. I think the major reason we are struggling is Peter's is in a huge funk-if he comes out of it we will be a good team. Baby Horatio would have been sorta ok at the 2 but you get zero defense and He can't finish at the rim--glad His ass has moved on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tcdog70 View Post
    are we not starting Holman at the 4 and Q at the 3--. I don't think Kegler is a big loss. He hung around the 3 point line and jacked up 3s. Maybe He would have been a lot better this year. I think the major reason we are struggling is Peter's is in a huge funk-if he comes out of it we will be a good team. Baby Horatio would have been sorta ok at the 2 but you get zero defense and He can't finish at the rim--glad His ass has moved on.
    It’s more about depth than who starts.
    When Ado comes out instead of having X ( who is not reliable ) we have kegler at the 4 Holman at the 5
    When Holman gets a blow kegler 4
    And as a freshman with 10/ 5 a game is soild Numbers .
    I understand he didn’t want to fit into CBH scheme and system and wouldn’t buy in. But not having him hurts greatly .

    Hell Herard is a huge loss. What does Datcher bring ? Basically nothing . Once again depth huge issue . And Herarrd was just a soph. Players do improve..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ari Gold View Post
    It’s more about depth than who starts.
    When Ado comes out instead of having X ( who is not reliable ) we have kegler at the 4 Holman at the 5
    When Holman gets a blow kegler 4
    And as a freshman with 10/ 5 a game is soild Numbers .
    I understand he didn’t want to fit into CBH scheme and system and wouldn’t buy in. But not having him hurts greatly .

    Hell Herard is a huge loss. What does Datcher bring ? Basically nothing . Once again depth huge issue . And Herarrd was just a soph. Players do improve..
    agreed--Maybe Datcher will improve--he has a nice shot and is a killer at the free throw line. I saw Kegler be very inconsistent--he had talent no doubt. I just don't have the love for Him you do. i think in the long run Feezel might be better than Kegler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tcdog70 View Post
    agreed--Maybe Datcher will improve--he has a nice shot and is a killer at the free throw line. I saw Kegler be very inconsistent--he had talent no doubt. I just don't have the love for Him you do. i think in the long run Feezel might be better than Kegler.
    I’m not saying Kegler is a pro.. but he was more read as a freshman than Feazell . Also meant we had to play Feazell and not red shirt him.
    We can count on one hand how many pros we have put in the league the last 30 years.
    For anyone to think Kegler isn’t a huge loss is 100% wrong.

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    Kegler, just like Newman, was convinced that he was a different position than where he was being played. It's hard to argue that 10 and 5 wouldn't have helped this year, but at the same time, guys with that kind of selfishness and lack of awareness can cost you in key moments or in less immediately obvious ways (locker room, etc.). Given the choice, I think I'd rather wait until year 4 and have a core of fully bought-in guys than have a few more games in the win column in year 2-3 but an unstable foundation due to having to excessively cater to divas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tcdog70 View Post
    . I saw Kegler be very inconsistent--he had talent no doubt. I just don't have the love for Him you do.
    He was a true freshman- of course he was inconsistent. I bet he makes All-Conference at Baylor
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
    Kegler showed up some times. But just like the rest of the players, his development (what he could be) sucked. Was he ahead of what we've got now? Yes, when he decided to do it. But still, you guys are clinging to one player, when more than that was given as the original reason we suck (losing those guys). So, we've lost one player that was somewhat productive. One............now lets come up with a better argument that losing all those guys is why we suck.
    We suck because our coaching sucks. There's no development. There's no teaching/coaching of offense whatsoever. I'd even say there's a lack of discipline. That's why we suck. This is Stans 2.0 almost. But we're not even that good.

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