Tonight's announcers really summed up our basketball program

[Coach34]

Stansbury led his team to postseason tournament play 11 times in 14 seasons (six NCAA and five NIT tournaments), with five consecutive post-season tournament appearances, the first MSU basketball coach in history to accomplish this feat.

aGAIN- We have made 2 NCAA?s in the last 13 seasons. Those numbers speak for themselves. Hell- we are likely an NIT team this year- yet that doesn?t seem to make anybody around here happy

[Jarius]

aGAIN- We have made 2 NCAA?s in the last 13 seasons. Those numbers speak for themselves. Hell- we are likely an NIT team this year- yet that doesn?t seem to make anybody around here happy

Because from 1991-2009 (most of my lifetime) we went to the NCAA tournament 9 times in 19 years. I was one who wanted Stans gone after we had people fighting in the stands and embarrassing the school, but what has happened since he left is completely unacceptable and our administration and coaches who have lead this shit show should be ashamed that they let it get this way.

[MarketingBully]

Because from 1991-2009 (most of my lifetime) we went to the NCAA tournament 9 times in 19 years. I was one who wanted Stans gone after we had people fighting in the stands and embarrassing the school, but what has happened since he left is completely unacceptable and our administration and coaches who have lead this shit show should be ashamed that they let it get this way.

The biggest elephant in the room and the biggest cautionary tale that I could tell anyone for basketball is when you fire a coach you damn well better upgrade the position or at least fire him when he has a shitty record and hasn’t left the cupboard bare. I agreed with letting Stansbury go at the time but you don’t fire him when A) we had just won 20+ games and made an NIT appearance and B) you don’t fire him when he left the cupboard bare. If Stricklin fires him a year earlier or a year later, we are in great shape to hire a new coach. We also saw a coaching search with Stricklin in selecting Ray that rivaled only Tennessee’s recent football coaching search in incompetence. You have to have a plan and a plan a, b, c, and d in place. Stricklin didn’t. If you want to know why our program was set back a decade look no further then the Florida AD Loafers and his self imposed three year death penalty. Ray’s three years of roster mismanagement, shitty recruiting, and shitty coaching is why it will take Coach Howland four years to get us back to the dance. Howland will get us back. Give him time.

[RocketDawg]

The biggest elephant in the room and the biggest cautionary tale that I could tell anyone for basketball is when you fire a coach you damn well better upgrade the position or at least fire him when he has a shitty record and hasn’t left the cupboard bare. I agreed with letting Stansbury go at the time but you don’t fire him when A) we had just won 20+ games and made an NIT appearance and B) you don’t fire him when he left the cupboard bare. If Stricklin fires him a year earlier or a year later, we are in great shape to hire a new coach. We also saw a coaching search with Stricklin in selecting Ray that rivaled only Tennessee’s recent football coaching search in incompetence. You have to have a plan and a plan a, b, c, and d in place. Stricklin didn’t. If you want to know why our program was set back a decade look no further then the Florida AD Loafers and his self imposed three year death penalty. Ray’s three years of roster mismanagement, shitty recruiting, and shitty coaching is why it will take Coach Howland four years to get us back to the dance. Howland will get us back. Give him time.

And we paid him $1M/year to do all that.

[Ari Gold]

And we paid him $1M/year to do all that.

And Thank God that guy that approved that is at Fla now..

[Coach34]

The biggest elephant in the room and the biggest cautionary tale that I could tell anyone for basketball is when you fire a coach you damn well better upgrade the position or at least fire him when he has a shitty record and hasn’t left the cupboard bare. I agreed with letting Stansbury go at the time but you don’t fire him when A) we had just won 20+ games and made an NIT appearance and B) you don’t fire him when he left the cupboard bare. If Stricklin fires him a year earlier or a year later, we are in great shape to hire a new coach. We also saw a coaching search with Stricklin in selecting Ray that rivaled only Tennessee’s recent football coaching search in incompetence. You have to have a plan and a plan a, b, c, and d in place. Stricklin didn’t. If you want to know why our program was set back a decade look no further then the Florida AD Loafers and his self imposed three year death penalty. Ray’s three years of roster mismanagement, shitty recruiting, and shitty coaching is why it will take Coach Howland four years to get us back to the dance. Howland will get us back. Give him time.

A) Great point on firing Stands when we did. We should have waited one more year so he would have bottomed out and nobody could say a word about it.

B) Ray's recruiting was a by-product of our refusal to continue to sponsor AAU programs during his tenure. You dont sponsor- you dont sign.

[MarketingBully]

A) Great point on firing Stands when we did. We should have waited one more year so he would have bottomed out and nobody could say a word about it.

B) Ray's recruiting was a by-product of our refusal to continue to sponsor AAU programs during his tenure. You dont sponsor- you dont sign.

Even had we sponsored AAU programs, do you honestly think that moron could sign anything more then a 2 or 3 star? One of the main reasons we fired him (aside from the incompetence and total lack of coaching) was because we basically would have missed out on every legacy we had and that would have buried our program even worse then it is now.

[MarketingBully]

aGAIN- We have made 2 NCAA?s in the last 13 seasons. Those numbers speak for themselves. Hell- we are likely an NIT team this year- yet that doesn?t seem to make anybody around here happy

What is your point to this thread? It’s taken Pearl four years to get Auburn back to the dance and they haven’t been since 2003. It took Frank Martin 4+ years to get USC to the tournament. Thanks to Rick Ray’s three years of absolute shit, we were those kinds of rebuilds.

[War Machine Dawg]

aGAIN- We have made 2 NCAA?s in the last 13 seasons. Those numbers speak for themselves. Hell- we are likely an NIT team this year- yet that doesn?t seem to make anybody around here happy

I'd be shocked if this team makes any sort of postseason play. They're heartless and not good. SOS doesn't lie, and we played one of - it not the - worst schedules in the NCAA so far. That we're being exposed in SEC play is the least surprising part of this season. We hired the bootleg version of Stands. Postseason play this year or GTFO should be what Cohen tells Howland.

[MarketingBully]

I'd be shocked if this team makes any sort of postseason play. They're heartless and not good. SOS doesn't lie, and we played one of - it not the - worst schedules in the NCAA so far. That we're being exposed in SEC play is the least surprising part of this season. We hired the bootleg version of Stands. Postseason play this year or GTFO should be what Cohen tells Howland.

Nope. We will make the NIT this season if Howland starts our best five which we have stated ad nauseum. He gets four years to make the NCAA tournament which we will dance next year...

[War Machine Dawg]

Nope. We will make the NIT this season if Howland starts our best five which we have stated ad nauseum. He gets four years to make the NCAA tournament which we will dance next year...

I'd be happy if we make the NIT this year. But I put the chances at less than 50% based on what we've seen so far. We can't win away from the Hump and we can't win regularly against good teams at the Hump now that we're in SEC play. Not a good way to make the postseason. If we were lights out at home, I'd be more optimistic.