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Any of you Howland critics listen to the Dawgtalk show?
Or listen to any of his post game pressers?
If not, you should try it sometime. It may change the perspective of many of the comments that get posted.
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Did he say he has been reading the ED gamethreads and will be using our ideas?
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He?s very well spoken and knows the game well. I?m hoping he can get us right.
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He is a good coach that just needs a little time but in today’s society of instant gratification, idiots who never played or coached think they know better than a guy who has been to the FINAL DAMN 4 multiple times. Spare my ass. Some people on this board need to shut up and be supportive. They do WAY more harm than good by breeding discontent.
Last edited by DogsofAnarchy; 01-17-2018 at 10:18 PM.
You hear those bells mother-fudder....an Air-RAID is coming and that is yo ass!
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Originally Posted by
DogsofAnarchy
He is a good coach that just needs a little time but in today?s society of instant gratification, idiots who never played or coached think they know better than a guy who has been to the FINAL DAMN 4 multiple times. Spare my ass. Some people on this board need to shut up and be supportive. They do WAY more harm than good by breeding discontent.
Nailed it...rep given.
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My issue with Howland (who I like very much) is his temperament during the game. I had the same issue with Don Muffin. I am a firm believer in a coach fighting for his team and fighting for a player to get the best outta themselves during the games. This means I want them getting on the players when they are doing stupid shit an I want them getting on the refs when they are getting hosed by calls. Like Saban does. The players don't like it but they like the end results. The refs don't like it but they are way less likely to **** you over when you make them officiate you fairly. Howland should have gotten thrown out vs Florida the officiating was so one-sided. Howland is just a very nice man all the time. That's a great quality for life but it isn't ideal for coaching during a game or practices imo. I grew up on Bobby Knight basketball though so it's just what I believe in.
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Originally Posted by
Dawg61
My issue with Howland (who I like very much) is his temperament during the game. I had the same issue with Don Muffin. I am a firm believer in a coach fighting for his team and fighting for a player to get the best outta themselves during the games. This means I want them getting on the players when they are doing stupid shit an I want them getting on the refs when they are getting hosed by calls. Like Saban does. The players don't like it but they like the end results. The refs don't like it but they are way less likely to **** you over when you make them officiate you fairly. Howland should have gotten thrown out vs Florida the officiating was so one-sided. Howland is just a very nice man all the time. That's a great quality for life but it isn't ideal for coaching during a game or practices imo. I grew up on Bobby Knight basketball though so it's just what I believe in.
Yelling and screaming all the time doesn’t make a good coach. It gets you attention and gets you noticed and on camera but it doesn’t make you a good coach. There are good coaches that do it, and there are terrible coaches that do it. All in all yelling and screaming is more effective if you don’t do it much. What you absolutely DON’T want is a coach acting out of his character. Acting jobs don’t work. Players see through that every time.
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Originally Posted by
Liverpooldawg
Yelling and screaming all the time doesn’t make a good coach. It gets you attention and gets you noticed and on camera but it doesn’t make you a good coach. There are good coaches that do it, and there are terrible coaches that do it. All in all yelling and screaming is more effective if you don’t do it much. What you absolutely DON’T want is a coach acting out of his character. Acting jobs don’t work. Players see through that every time.
Worked pretty well for Hugh Freeze.
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Originally Posted by
louisvilledawg
Worked pretty well for Hugh Freeze.
Freeze was acting totally in character.
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Did Howland talk about changing up practice regarding shooting? Because it has been reported that he did.
Not many of us have said that Howland sucks as a coach, just question some of the decisions. I’ve wondered why Holman wasn’t given enough minutes. And the obvious 3 pt and Free throw % were both inexplainable.
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Originally Posted by
MaroonFlounder
Did Howland talk about changing up practice regarding shooting? Because it has been reported that he did.
Not many of us have said that Howland sucks as a coach, just question some of the decisions. I’ve wondered why Holman wasn’t given enough minutes. And the obvious 3 pt and Free throw % were both inexplainable.
He did and has been talking about all the issues that some here seem to think he is oblivious to. If someone doesn't want to spend the time to be informed, they really shouldn't be spouting crap that they don't know anything about. As DOA pointed out, it doesn't contribute anything to the program and makes the poster sound foolish.
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Originally Posted by
MCsMGs
He did and has been talking about all the issues that some here seem to think he is oblivious to. If someone doesn't want to spend the time to be informed, they really shouldn't be spouting crap that they don't know anything about. As DOA pointed out, it doesn't contribute anything to the program and makes the poster sound foolish.
A lot of the discontent is done by design. I have tried to tell Bulldogs on here and other sites that OM has a “planned” attack to spread rumors and discontent because they see MSU has more potential than they have. That is a real threat and they take counter espionage very serious. This should be a Bulldog site only and get rid of the discontent. I don’t mean varying opinions should not be heard. I mean negative demeaning, disrupting posts should be dealt with.
You hear those bells mother-fudder....an Air-RAID is coming and that is yo ass!
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Originally Posted by
DogsofAnarchy
A lot of the discontent is done by design. I have tried to tell Bulldogs on here and other sites that OM has a “planned” attack to spread rumors and discontent because they see MSU has more potential than they have. That is a real threat and they take counter espionage very serious. This should be a Bulldog site only and get rid of the discontent. I don’t mean varying opinions should not be heard. I mean negative demeaning, disrupting posts should be dealt with.
The obvious Rebels are banned like always but Bulldog fans have a right to bitch in this world just like every fanbase does and this site is exactly that place to do it in so we aren't on twitter or Facebook or out in public doing it. Some of you don't seem to understand that people need an avenue to get their frustrations out. This is exactly the correct place for it. If a coach is having a shitty season he shouldn't seek out this site or others like it to read about himself and they should be smart enough to realize that.
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Originally Posted by
Dawg61
The obvious Rebels are banned like always but Bulldog fans have a right to bitch in this world just like every fanbase does and this site is exactly that place to do it in so we aren't on twitter or Facebook or out in public doing it. Some of you don't seem to understand that people need an avenue to get their frustrations out. This is exactly the correct place for it. If a coach is having a shitty season he shouldn't seek out this site or others like it to read about himself and they should be smart enough to realize that.
I get that...but doesn't the cliche' of "never go full retard" apply at some point?
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Holman has asthmatic condition that limits his minutes...
Originally Posted by
MaroonFlounder
Did Howland talk about changing up practice regarding shooting? Because it has been reported that he did.
Not many of us have said that Howland sucks as a coach, just question some of the decisions. I?ve wondered why Holman wasn?t given enough minutes. And the obvious 3 pt and Free throw % were both inexplainable.
He seems to have improved his conditioning some, but that is why his minutes are often cut short. He has trouble going hard for extended periods.
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I guess Howland needs more time to adapt to the job here, as well as changes to the game.
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Yep. His piddly ass salary really puts constraints on his ability to function at an optimal level. Damn, would some of you nimrods give me a 17ing break!
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Talk is cheap. Sly Croom talked a real good game. See where that got us.
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Originally Posted by
Drugdog
Talk is cheap. Sly Croom talked a real good game. See where that got us.
Irrelevant comparisons are cheap too...how many teams did Croom coach to top 4 national rankings?
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I like Howland a lot and I am doing my best with him.
Shots fall, and then they don't. Sometimes you get calls and sometimes you don't. Sometimes the other team has a good game plan for you. This team is very young and is going to be inconsistent with those things. But my one beef is with undisciplined play. We give the ball away way too much with unforced turnovers, and we have what has to be the crappiest shot selection of any team in the conference. Now, it's not always the case...and the Vandy game is an example where the team took care of the ball better and made some shots. But the things that always travel, whether you're hitting shots or not: Defense, effort, and discipline. We play good defense. We give inconsistent effort and even less consistent discipline. Those things are easy fixes for a coach and that is my only frustration with Howland.
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