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    Quote Originally Posted by RocketDawg View Post
    To me, I think it means our recruiting radius will increase dramatically
    Good we have the 3rd smallest recruiting radius of all D1 schools for football (average distance a signee is from MSU) it's only like 177 miles or something. I remember someone posting that graph and it was shocking to see us top 3. Don Muffin was a lazy recruiter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawg61 View Post
    Good we have the 3rd smallest recruiting radius of all D1 schools for football (average distance a signee is from MSU) it's only like 177 miles or something. I remember someone posting that graph and it was shocking to see us top 3. Don Muffin was a lazy recruiter.
    And we're a major school with a major football (and other) program, and need to strive to be elite. There's no reason we can't recruit all over the country. Lord knows we spend enough money on sports ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by RocketDawg View Post
    And we're a major school with a major football (and other) program, and need to strive to be elite. There's no reason we can't recruit all over the country. Lord knows we spend enough money on sports ....
    We aren't going to recruit all over the country. It would be dumb to do so. We hired a guy who is hopefully good at his job. And I love that we are adding specialists to our recruiting staff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RocketDawg View Post
    And we're a major school with a major football (and other) program, and need to strive to be elite. There's no reason we can't recruit all over the country. Lord knows we spend enough money on sports ....
    This would be a total waste of time.

    We need to stick to our strengths. You said something about academics earlier, are you saying we should not recruit JUCOs and similar? You sound very clueless about who and what MSU is

    Mullen’s strategy was the right one. He simply did not land the players

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5049 View Post
    This would be a total waste of time.

    We need to stick to our strengths. You said something about academics earlier, are you saying we should not recruit JUCOs and similar? You sound very clueless about who and what MSU is

    Mullen’s strategy was the right one. He simply did not land the players
    No, of course I didn't mean we should focus on the entire country at the expense of the locals and regionals. Nobody does that, even the private schools. But we shouldn't shy away from a guy just because he's from the west coast or the midwest. If a JUCO is up to the rigors of a university education along with playing a sport, go for him. There are reasons other than not being smart that a person goes to a community college.

    Why don't you tell me "who and what MSU is" since I don't know. If I hear "people's university" one more time I think I'll puke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RocketDawg View Post
    Why don't you tell me "who and what MSU is" since I don't know.
    Sure.

    We are the state university of Mississippi. We pride ourselves on that blue collar attitude, where anyone can come and get their education if they work hard. Being that we are tied closely to the state of Mississippi, it means we are tied closely to the JUCO system. We all know the school is good, but unfortunately we have that ruling that made the admissions standards lower. It is what it is. In this vein, pretending to be some high level academic institution would be idiotic.

    Playing on the blue collar part, we can and should be a solid choice for students/athletes in surrounding states who may want to get out of their home state, but still want to be/feel close to home.

    That is our brand right now. We are the people's university. If you don't like it, first go puke, then you best make peace with it.

    That is the best fit strategy for now. Maybe one day we can take that next step. I read where Clemson heavily invested their recruiting efforts into the NJ/NY area, and it worked for them (I have no idea why, I guess it is linked to their economy). If we are picking a far away land to invest efforts, that should be TX, since we have similar economic interests. Other than that, it's futile. Now, I'm talking big area here......we do a great job in Memphis, Birmingham, Mobile and Huntsville as it is.

    I know we are talking football recruiting here, but I honestly believe that both efforts are interlinked.

    And no, we should never shy away from any individual interested in our school, but when making strategic plans, you have to look big picture, not at individuals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 5049 View Post
    Sure.

    We are the state university of Mississippi. We pride ourselves on that blue collar attitude, where anyone can come and get their education if they work hard. Being that we are tied closely to the state of Mississippi, it means we are tied closely to the JUCO system. We all know the school is good, but unfortunately we have that ruling that made the admissions standards lower. It is what it is. In this vein, pretending to be some high level academic institution would be idiotic.

    Playing on the blue collar part, we can and should be a solid choice for students/athletes in surrounding states who may want to get out of their home state, but still want to be/feel close to home.

    That is our brand right now. We are the people's university. If you don't like it, first go puke, then you best make peace with it.

    That is the best fit strategy for now. Maybe one day we can take that next step. I read where Clemson heavily invested their recruiting efforts into the NJ/NY area, and it worked for them (I have no idea why, I guess it is linked to their economy). If we are picking a far away land to invest efforts, that should be TX, since we have similar economic interests. Other than that, it's futile. Now, I'm talking big area here......we do a great job in Memphis, Birmingham, Mobile and Huntsville as it is.

    I know we are talking football recruiting here, but I honestly believe that both efforts are interlinked.

    And no, we should never shy away from any individual interested in our school, but when making strategic plans, you have to look big picture, not at individuals.
    I agree. Mississippi should always be our first priority. I think that philosophy is what has helped push our program past Ole Miss.

    Clemson probably recruits New York because it is a huge population center. Which means a lot of players/talent. I would imagine that while it's far going from South Carolina to New York is driveable in a day too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5049 View Post
    This would be a total waste of time.

    We need to stick to our strengths. You said something about academics earlier, are you saying we should not recruit JUCOs and similar? You sound very clueless about who and what MSU is

    Mullen’s strategy was the right one. He simply did not land the players
    No it wasn’t. Hell, Mullen barely recruited FL and TX. It’s was MS and whatever fell in his lap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
    No it wasn?t. Hell, Mullen barely recruited FL and TX. It?s was MS and whatever fell in his lap.
    Yes, it was. It's not debatable. Mullen's success was built on MS/AL/LA, with a few others sprinkled in from wherever we could get them. Geography matters on a large scale, but not a small one.

    It is not a smart strategy to go compete against half of the United States in Florida, especially when there is not a big contingent of MSU alumni there.

    Again, I can give a little bit on Texas, specifically the Houston area. I would not bother with DFW Metroplex. A lot of MSU people in Houston around and back through Louisiana, in the oil industry. I also think it would be worth it to try and get flights from GTR to Houston.

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