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Some positive signs in football recruiting for 2019 for Moorhead
This may be just pure perception more than anything but it appears to me that we are offering more top 100 National type players. That's a good thing because if MSU keeps showing up as an offer I think it gives the perception that we are a serious player in recruiting for whatever reason. That's one of the things that Ole Miss does to help boost their recruiting some. Dan didn't offer these types of players as much.
It appears as if we are going to have a junior day possibly the same weekend that we play Ole Miss in basketball. Look, I know our team sucks in men's basketball right now. But that would be a good game for our fans to try to go to if for no other reason to give us a good crowd for the football recruits. And I do need to mention that this isn't official yet- but I do personally think it's likely.
In the past, Dan probably would have scheduled Junior Day the same day as the ACT with no home basketball game because he didn't want it to interfere with his marathon training schedule.**
Seriously, this appears to be better awareness from our staff in recruiting.
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Originally Posted by
Todd4State
This may be just pure perception more than anything but it appears to me that we are offering more top 100 National type players. That's a good thing because if MSU keeps showing up as an offer I think it gives the perception that we are a serious player in recruiting for whatever reason. That's one of the things that Ole Miss does to help boost their recruiting some. Dan didn't offer these types of players as much.
It appears as if we are going to have a junior day possibly the same weekend that we play Ole Miss in basketball. Look, I know our team sucks in men's basketball right now. But that would be a good game for our fans to try to go to if for no other reason to give us a good crowd for the football recruits. And I do need to mention that this isn't official yet- but I do personally think it's likely.
In the past, Dan probably would have scheduled Junior Day the same day as the ACT with no home basketball game because he didn't want it to interfere with his marathon training schedule.**
Seriously, this appears to be better awareness from our staff in recruiting.
IIRC, OM was offering EVERY top 100 player (maybe even top 300), and while it may seem "whorish", I think it was a pretty good idea... I mean, what have you got to lose, some free print? Hell, if I was Moorehead/MSU, I'd offer consider a similar tactic, sans the shenanigans...
"It is not courage to resist TUSK; It is courage to accept TUSK."
No.
Easy there buddy. Tusk is...well Tusk is Tusk. Tireddawg 12.20.17
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Originally Posted by
TUSK
IIRC, OM was offering EVERY top 100 player (maybe even top 300), and while it may seem "whorish", I think it was a pretty good idea... I mean, what have you got to lose, some free print? Hell, if I was Moorehead/MSU, I'd offer consider a similar tactic, sans the shenanigans...
Yeah I'm not sure why every P5 school doesn't do that.
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Originally Posted by
TUSK
IIRC, OM was offering EVERY top 100 player (maybe even top 300)
I wonder how much they spent?
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Originally Posted by
Jack Lambert
I wonder how much they spent?
Not much on a blanket offer. It's whatever paper costs to send them the offer.
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Originally Posted by
Todd4State
Not much on a blanket offer. It's whatever paper costs to send them the offer.
If you want to make an impact on them, visit them. I'd send everyone out in pairs and divide up the top 100 among them and visit each kid. 16 of this years Top 100 on 247 are in Georgia, and 4 more are close to the GA boarder. That's 20% of the list in a few days of driving. You catch 1 of those kids and it is worth it. There are enough kids from the SEC footprint in the Top 300 that if we just focused on those we would be a step up from whatever it was the Country Club was doing.
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Could we invite them to the Dude instead of basketball? I'm sure a half built Dude is better then the product we put in the Hump.
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Originally Posted by
Todd4State
This may be just pure perception more than anything but it appears to me that we are offering more top 100 National type players. That's a good thing because if MSU keeps showing up as an offer I think it gives the perception that we are a serious player in recruiting for whatever reason. That's one of the things that Ole Miss does to help boost their recruiting some. Dan didn't offer these types of players as much.
It appears as if we are going to have a junior day possibly the same weekend that we play Ole Miss in basketball. Look, I know our team sucks in men's basketball right now. But that would be a good game for our fans to try to go to if for no other reason to give us a good crowd for the football recruits. And I do need to mention that this isn't official yet- but I do personally think it's likely.
In the past, Dan probably would have scheduled Junior Day the same day as the ACT with no home basketball game because he didn't want it to interfere with his marathon training schedule.**
Seriously, this appears to be better awareness from our staff in recruiting.
That's b/c he was too busy looking for that 2* diamond in the rough.
Remember the rumor I posted a week ago that TBuck was appalled at our laziness in recruiting. Compared to FSU we were WAAAAAAAAY behind the 8 ball. Dan told him that he didn't waste time on big name guys. So, TBuck goes into FL and gets a 4* guy that Dan said we couldn't get.
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Originally Posted by
TrapGame
That's b/c he was too busy looking for that 2* diamond in the rough.
Remember the rumor I posted a week ago that TBuck was appalled at our laziness in recruiting. Compared to FSU we were WAAAAAAAAY behind the 8 ball. Dan told him that he didn't waste time on big name guys. So, TBuck goes into FL and gets a 4* guy that Dan said we couldn't get.
Who is this Dan guy?
Our last coach was lazy and arrogant. He was too lazy to battle other programs for top 300 guys. His arrogance gave him the mindset that he invented football and didn?t need to upgrade talent to win as much as he needed. Apparently he only needed to win enough to get another gig. Everything now makes sense in that he truly never intended on giving relentless effort to win big here. He was doing just enough to get a ?better gig?.
Regarding JoMo, I think he knows how to relate to these kids. When Saquon Barkley goes high in the first round it should only help our recruiting.
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Originally Posted by
RougeDawg
Who is this Dan guy?
Our last coach was lazy and arrogant. He was too lazy to battle other programs for top 300 guys. His arrogance gave him the mindset that he invented football and didn?t need to upgrade talent to win as much as he needed. Apparently he only needed to win enough to get another gig. Everything now makes sense in that he truly never intended on giving relentless effort to win big here. He was doing just enough to get a ?better gig?.
Regarding JoMo, I think he knows how to relate to these kids. When Saquon Barkley goes high in the first round it should only help our recruiting.
If that last coach, Doug McGrudder or something, had put that relentless effort he kept talking about into his coaching and especially in recruiting he would have won a NC in 2014.
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Originally Posted by
RougeDawg
Who is this Dan guy?
Our last coach was lazy and arrogant. He was too lazy to battle other programs for top 300 guys. His arrogance gave him the mindset that he invented football and didn?t need to upgrade talent to win as much as he needed. Apparently he only needed to win enough to get another gig. Everything now makes sense in that he truly never intended on giving relentless effort to win big here. He was doing just enough to get a ?better gig?.
Regarding JoMo, I think he knows how to relate to these kids. When Saquon Barkley goes high in the first round it should only help our recruiting.
Yep, we not only have the Offensive Coordinator who used him properly but the RB coach who developed him. Coach Moorhead is about to make Kylin some money.
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I told you all a few weeks ago....it wasn't just the alleged money and whores that Ole Miss used in recruiting it was also OUR staff's lazy approach to recruiting. If our staff had put in half the effort the Ole Miss staff did then we wouldn't have seen so many flips, drama, etc. Things are going to change drastically with this new staff in here. There are some real fighters on it that excel at recruiting.
Things are changing drastically in that area. Plus, even though Ole Miss was slapped on the wrist, they are still on probation. Don't think for a second that a BUNCH of folks aren't watching their recruiting process very closely.
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Good post Todd.
I think in some ways when Don got to MSU he had to run the the football program like a small business because it was.
However, as we see in business, many small businesses have trouble changing their mindset once they become a bigger business.
I see Moorhead & co as a management company that observed this small business doing well, forming a niche market, & saying we can take this to the next level.
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if you remember-the Slytanic was going to recruit Cally and bring those players to State. How did that work? face it-we must recruit-Ms-Al-TN-LA and sometime TX and FL. IMHO we are wasting our time and Money trying to recruit Nationally. our biggest advantage is MS JUCO.
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Teddy Ginn Jr.—-Our Track Coach had him lined up to visit. Croom told him he had better recevers lined up. Ginn was down to MSU & Ohio st.
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Originally Posted by
Hamdog9
Teddy Ginn Jr.?-Our Track Coach had him lined up to visit. Croom told him he had better recevers lined up. Ginn was down to MSU & Ohio st.
Same thing happened with Ty Montgomery. He was actually in Starkville and wanted to come visit and nobody would return his phone call. That was when Mullen was here though. I think it was Melvin that ignored it.
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This is an uninformed post
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Originally Posted by
Todd4State
This may be just pure perception more than anything but it appears to me that we are offering more top 100 National type players. That's a good thing because if MSU keeps showing up as an offer I think it gives the perception that we are a serious player in recruiting for whatever reason. That's one of the things that Ole Miss does to help boost their recruiting some. Dan didn't offer these types of players as much.
It appears as if we are going to have a junior day possibly the same weekend that we play Ole Miss in basketball. Look, I know our team sucks in men's basketball right now. But that would be a good game for our fans to try to go to if for no other reason to give us a good crowd for the football recruits. And I do need to mention that this isn't official yet- but I do personally think it's likely.
In the past, Dan probably would have scheduled Junior Day the same day as the ACT with no home basketball game because he didn't want it to interfere with his marathon training schedule.**
Seriously, this appears to be better awareness from our staff in recruiting.
If Moorhead's offense is really Chip Kelly Part II, I would agree with you. We won't know that until next year most likely. Right now, I still think we need to recruit the way Mississippi State recruits - circle in on Mississippi players and other overlooked players from surrounding states (the 5 hour drive time as Muffins said), and show them how much we want them to come help us build something. Blanket offering kids from around the country runs contrary that, and could work against us.
Once we get a reputation like Oregon's, we can recruit more nationally.
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Dan loved and ate up the “developer of player” and turning 2 and 3 stars into sec players that the media labeled him as.
It was safe for Dan. If they were just average or didn’t contribute oh well they weren’t suppose to be good. If they became SEC guys and Pros, Hey look at me I’m a genius and can find talent and develope it.
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