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    I think if was going to transfer and sit out a year I would think he would move closer to home. OK or one of the other Texas schools.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Lambert View Post
    I think if was going to transfer and sit out a year I would think he would move closer to home. OK or one of the other Texas schools.
    I'd advise him to transfer to Hawaii.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tcdog70 View Post
    Well I guess Tua is a liar, because he said He looked the safety off.
    He did it a few times last night. You could tell bc as soon as he looked toward his real target he was already loading up to throw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    yeah because getting QB talent on campus is a bad thing. Hurts battling KT for the QB job would be great for State
    No, I do understand your point. I wouldnt turn him away. I just think there are other greater needs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gravedigger View Post
    No, I do understand your point. I wouldnt turn him away. I just think there are other greater needs.
    Yep and Hurts ain't gonna transfer to Msu. Here we have a senior, a Soph and a true Freshman Qb coming in with a new Coach who I bet will do well with our Qb's. Should be a fun 2018 year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gravedigger View Post
    No, I do understand your point. I wouldnt turn him away. I just think there are other greater needs.
    we were a turned ankle in bowl practice from starting a walk-on in the bowl game. We lack QB depth
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Ok- I'll type slower so maybe you can understand:

    Where the QB was looking has nothing to do with the ******* Safety. There was no WR threat pressing the middle for the Safety to be looked off too. If you watch the Safety in the video- he softly backpedals and stays on the hash. He didnt stay as deep as the deepest threat- the X- as he is taught to do. If Tua had "looked him off" he would have drifted toward the middle of the field. He didnt do that- his ass didnt get deep like he is supposed to.

    The CB who was sinking- hesitated because he saw the crosser and expected the Safety to be over the top for him.

    I can't explain it any simpler or understand it for you
    Makes sense if the safety knows every wr route. Unfortunately for him, he looked to see where the WRs were

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Makes sense if the safety knows every wr route. Unfortunately for him, he looked to see where the WRs were
    You look as your backpedaling. However, you don't guess where the Qb is throwing. Truthfully that should have been an interception if played properly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldawg28 View Post
    You look as your backpedaling. However, you don't guess where the Qb is throwing. Truthfully that should have been an interception if played properly.
    Exactly 28. The bad play by the Safety is mind-googling. He was ****ing awful on that play
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    I see what 34 is saying.....and he is correct ...BUTTTTTTTTT.......I REALLY REALLY admire teaching a QB to look off a receiver, Fitz it seems is STILL trying to learn that at times it. I never understood why most HS qb?s aren?t made to look the wrong way even though they know their predetermined routes.....(in the old days anyway)...
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    Quote Originally Posted by lastmajordog View Post
    I see what 34 is saying.....and he is correct ...BUTTTTTTTTT.......I REALLY REALLY admire teaching a QB to look off a receiver, Fitz it seems is STILL trying to learn that at times it. I never understood why most HS qb?s aren?t made to look the wrong way even though they know their predetermined routes.....(in the old days anyway)...
    I teach the same thing to 10th graders- Tua saw the secondary leaning to ward trips. The safety bails right at the snap to the hashmark. Tua looks to the trips side as he is taught to do- the Safety for Georgia is taught to stay as deep as the deepest WR. The Safety weakly dropped and got run by.

    The defense simply broke down and cost UGa the game. That cant ****ing happen on 2nd ND 26. Tua didnt work some kind of crazy magic to beat them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    I teach the same thing to 10th graders- Tua saw the secondary leaning to ward trips. The safety bails right at the snap to the hashmark. Tua looks to the trips side as he is taught to do- the Safety for Georgia is taught to stay as deep as the deepest WR. The Safety weakly dropped and got run by.

    The defense simply broke down and cost UGa the game. That cant ****ing happen on 2nd ND 26. Tua didnt work some kind of crazy magic to beat them.
    Truth

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Ok- I'll type slower so maybe you can understand:

    Where the QB was looking has nothing to do with the ******* Safety. There was no WR threat pressing the middle for the Safety to be looked off too. If you watch the Safety in the video- he softly backpedals and stays on the hash. He didnt stay as deep as the deepest threat- the X- as he is taught to do. If Tua had "looked him off" he would have drifted toward the middle of the field. He didnt do that- his ass didnt get deep like he is supposed to.

    The CB who was sinking- hesitated because he saw the crosser and expected the Safety to be over the top for him.

    I can't explain it any simpler or understand it for you
    This is the correct answer. If y?all ever played safety you would understand. I guarantee you the last thing said was don?t get beat deep. His drop was to slow and by the time he realized what was happening the wr was by him. He may have expected help from the cb by getting a bump on the wr and that may by why he was slow in his drop but that was a major screw up on his part. Only one job he had was stay deeper than deepest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Commercecomet24 View Post
    This is the correct answer. If y?all ever played safety you would understand. I guarantee you the last thing said was don?t get beat deep. His drop was to slow and by the time he realized what was happening the wr was by him. He may have expected help from the cb by getting a bump on the wr and that may by why he was slow in his drop but that was a major screw up on his part. Only one job he had was stay deeper than deepest.
    So he just "went to sleep"? I can understand getting tricked, but he literally "had 1 job".... I just wanna know his thought process/what he "thinks he saw" between the snap and the "oh, frick" moment...

    Any insight?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TUSK View Post
    So he just "went to sleep"? I can understand getting tricked, but he literally "had 1 job"....Any insight?
    If Georgia was in Cover 2- the Safety has deep half. Nobody on the left side of the field is supposed to get behind him. The CB on that side sinks until threatened underneath his way. The Safety doesnt let anybody get deeper than him on the left half of the field

    If Georgia was in Cover 4- The Safety has deep 1/4 and the CB that side has deep 1/4. The CB that side hesitating leads me to believe they are in Cover 2. With the X pressing deep- there is no reason for the CB that side to settle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    If Georgia was in Cover 2- the Safety has deep half. Nobody on the left side of the field is supposed to get behind him. The CB on that side sinks until threatened underneath his way. The Safety doesnt let anybody get deeper than him on the left half of the field

    If Georgia was in Cover 4- The Safety has deep 1/4 and the CB that side has deep 1/4. The CB that side hesitating leads me to believe they are in Cover 2. With the X pressing deep- there is no reason for the CB that side to settle.
    that makes even more sense, now... so, in this application, the Safety had NO assignments other than the DEEPEST guy only on the LEFT side of the field... and UGA had another cat to cover deep, right side?

    damn, this is almost as hard as posting a pic... but I'll try, anyway....

    "It is not courage to resist TUSK; It is courage to accept TUSK."

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    Quote Originally Posted by TUSK View Post
    So he just "went to sleep"? I can understand getting tricked, but he literally "had 1 job".... I just wanna know his thought process/what he "thinks he saw" between the snap and the "oh, frick" moment...

    Any insight?
    I think he expected a bump or re route by the cb and that?s why he was slow in his drop and the wr got on him quicker than he expected. To late then. IMO the cb and safety both effed up but safety?s mea culpa was the worst
    Last edited by Commercecomet24; 01-10-2018 at 08:45 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    I teach the same thing to 10th graders- Tua saw the secondary leaning to ward trips. The safety bails right at the snap to the hashmark. Tua looks to the trips side as he is taught to do- the Safety for Georgia is taught to stay as deep as the deepest WR. The Safety weakly dropped and got run by.

    The defense simply broke down and cost UGa the game. That cant ****ing happen on 2nd ND 26. Tua didnt work some kind of crazy magic to beat them.
    Exactly! This isn?t a hard concept to understand. Safety busted plain and simple. He had a weak drop and the wr was on him before he knew it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TUSK View Post
    that makes even more sense, now... so, in this application, the Safety had NO assignments other than the DEEPEST guy only on the LEFT side of the field... and UGA had another cat to cover deep, right side?

    damn, this is almost as hard as posting a pic... but I'll try, anyway....

    You got it. He completely blew his assignment.

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    this?

    "It is not courage to resist TUSK; It is courage to accept TUSK."

    No.


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