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Ado Haters...
We lose that game by double digits without him.
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Having no post game is what kept them in it. Gafflord had 17 and 5. Ado did have 8 and 9 but was 2/9 from the FT line. Our lack of a post game is keeping this team from being really good.
Ado has to be good defensively because there is no reason to play him if he wasnt
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
Having no post game is what kept them in it. Gafflord had 17 and 5. Ado did have 8 and 9 but was 2/9 from the FT line. Our lack of a post game is keeping this team from being really good.
Ado has to be good defensively because there is no reason to play him if he wasnt
Nah, 2-19 from 3 with 3 minutes left in the game is what kept them in it.
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Originally Posted by
HoopsDawg
Nah, 2-19 from 3 with 3 minutes left in the game is what kept them in it.
Ouch. I knew it was bad. I agree completely
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Originally Posted by
HoopsDawg
Nah, 2-19 from 3 with 3 minutes left in the game is what kept them in it.
because teams can extend their D due to us having zero post game.
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
because teams can extend their D due to us having zero post game.
Doesn't matter who our coach is. You always find something wrong with our Team. 13-1 looks 17ing good to Me. But you loved Ray and wanted Him to have another year. Go figure
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Originally Posted by
tcdog70
Doesn't matter who our coach is. You always find something wrong with our Team.
Loved Richard Williams and this team looks like a typical Richard Williams team. Plays tough D and gets after you. Hopes to get enough O to win. Gotta love it.
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
because teams can extend their D due to us having zero post game.
We bricked a lot of good looks. Not every 3 we took was in a half court offense. We missed 3s in transition and off of offensive rebounds.
Agree that Ado needs to continue to develop post game and I think he will. If he was a finished product, he'd be a one and done.
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Normally coach I would agree with you, but the majority of our misses from three tonight we're better than good looks, we just were not making them. Hell Peter's first three went in the basket and still found a way to roll out.
Our defense today gave up about 30 easy points because they were not getting in position quick enough on the high ball screen and in transition.
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
because teams can extend their D due to us having zero post game.
BS. Most, close to all, of our 3's were OPEN shots. We contested WAY more of their 3's than they did.
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Junior Member
Good thing he plays good, active defense.
Originally Posted by
Coach34
Having no post game is what kept them in it. Gafflord had 17 and 5. Ado did have 8 and 9 but was 2/9 from the FT line. Our lack of a post game is keeping this team from being really good.
Ado has to be good defensively because there is no reason to play him if he wasnt
Ado definitely has his lapses, but he is showing more every time out on defense. He is so active at the top, only issue is he sometimes loses his man after a hard hedge. I really really like his potential.
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
Having no post game is what kept them in it. Gafflord had 17 and 5. Ado did have 8 and 9 but was 2/9 from the FT line. Our lack of a post game is keeping this team from being really good.
Ahh .. again, WITHOUT Ado we DON'T win. He is a rsFR. Hopefully, he gets better .. especially from the FT line. Was 3 of 3 from the field. Had 4 blocks and 9 boards.
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Never the less, without him we lose this game. He is very solid defensively
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He is a raw Freshman. He will break records here if he stays
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I agree on him long term- just talking about this season specifically. His offense is a project- but he can certainly play D. The problem with him being a project on offense is that he plays with Holman who plays like he is 6'4 instead of 6'11
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
I agree on him long term- just talking about this season specifically. His offense is a project- but he can certainly play D. The problem with him being a project on offense is that he plays with Holman who plays like he is 6'4 instead of 6'11
Have you even watched Holman this year? He won us 3-4 games with his play. All we need Ado to do is play defense, rebound and make 50% of his free throws.
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
I agree on him long term- just talking about this season specifically. His offense is a project- but he can certainly play D. The problem with him being a project on offense is that he plays with Holman who plays like he is 6'4 instead of 6'11
Amen!!! Holman wants to live & die with 3?s but I am beyond shocked at Ado?s lack of development with the ball in his hands. He has ZERO low post moves, ZIP, None, Nada. Did he not practice with the team all of last year??? Do we not have a coach working with our Biggs??? Holman wants to be a shooting guard and while Ado plays with great effort and is a rebounding machine, I have seen several junior high post players with more game than Ado.
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Originally Posted by
biggun
Amen!!! Holman wants to live & die with 3?s but I am beyond shocked at Ado?s lack of development with the ball in his hands. He has ZERO low post moves, ZIP, None, Nada. Did he not practice with the team all of last year??? Do we not have a coach working with our Biggs??? Holman wants to be a shooting guard and while Ado plays with great effort and is a rebounding machine, I have seen several junior high post players with more game than Ado.
I don't think either of you have watched many of our games this year if you're gonna make comments about Homan like that...
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Originally Posted by
biggun
Amen!!! Holman wants to live & die with 3?s but I am beyond shocked at Ado?s lack of development with the ball in his hands. He has ZERO low post moves, ZIP, None, Nada. Did he not practice with the team all of last year??? Do we not have a coach working with our Biggs??? Holman wants to be a shooting guard and while Ado plays with great effort and is a rebounding machine, I have seen several junior high post players with more game than Ado.
Ado?s lower half and ball skills, especially his speed with the ball, will never allow him to be an offensive threat. I can?t understand why y?all can?t accept having another Swat master on the team. He?s a defensive stud. We?d suck defensively in the post without him and our G?s can?t stop a damn drive to save their lives, so I?m thankful as hell we have him. I don?t see how this isn?t obvious. People look at a stat line and think ?3 blocks?? He only made 3 plays? No! He probably made 10-15 easy layups against arkansas very difficult shots. He?s a freak and right now arguably our MVP. He?s sure as hell the defensive MVP.
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Originally Posted by
Political Hack
Ado?s lower half and ball skills, especially his speed with the ball, will never allow him to be an offensive threat. I can?t understand why y?all can?t accept having another Swat master on the team. He?s a defensive stud. We?d suck defensively in the post without him and our G?s can?t stop a damn drive to save their lives, so I?m thankful as hell we have him. I don?t see how this isn?t obvious. People look at a stat line and think ?3 blocks?? He only made 3 plays? No! He probably made 10-15 easy layups against arkansas very difficult shots. He?s a freak and right now arguably our MVP. He?s sure as hell the defensive MVP.
Nobody is questioning his defense- but when you a play a Stretch 4 like Holman that doesnt have a low post presence at all- you need a 5 that can post up to help you offense. We dont have that in him currently and it hurts our offense.
Vanardo had Charles Rhodes and Kodi Augustus with him- which gave us some inside help on offense. Plus Vanardo could make FT's unlike Ado who shoots them like Shaq (42.9%)
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