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Originally Posted by
TrapGame
Dude, I'll be honest. I really don't give a shit. My life revolves around other things. Net Neutrality ain't one. It can stay or go. I really don't care.
This is an interesting statement in the thread. Why even read the thread and respond if you don't care? For anyone that thinks corporations will not take advantage of the situation, I have some oceanside property in Tishomingo MS for sale really cheap. Corporations didn't spend 100s of Millions of dollars buying politicians just because they wanted to help the average person. It was an investment in a future revenue stream.
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Originally Posted by
TrapGame
Dude, I'll be honest. I really don't give a shit. My life revolves around other things. Net Neutrality ain't one. It can stay or go. I really don't care.
I promise you that your day to day life revolves around the internet. A lot. More than you even realize.
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Originally Posted by
dawgs
I promise you that your day to day life revolves around the internet. A lot. More than you even realize.
And that's the problem with the world. Our lives revolve around something like the internet.
I like hanging out with you guys and talking MSU sports but this is why I don't talk politics or religion.
I'm sure the pro-NN people have a valid concern. However, this repeal does not make the internet a lawless wasteland.
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Originally Posted by
TrapGame
And that's the problem with the world. Our lives revolve around something like the internet.
I like hanging out with you guys and talking MSU sports but this is why I don't talk politics or religion.
I'm sure the pro-NN people have a valid concern. However, this repeal does not make the internet a lawless wasteland.
Do you use google maps when traveling? Do you stream Netflix? Amazon prime? Are you a cord cutter and use roku or psvue? Stream MSU games on espn now? Do you manage your bank account online? Pay bills online? Do you still read an actual newspaper and watch the nightly local news, or do you browse the weather and daily news on your news website of choice? If you are looking for a new job, do you still go through the classifieds? Or are you using indeed and LinkedIn and glassdoor to find jobs? Do you hand delivery your application or email/post it online to apply?
This goes FAR beyond access to reading people bitch about MSU sports.
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Originally Posted by
TrapGame
Dude, I'll be honest. I really don't give a shit. My life revolves around other things. Net Neutrality ain't one. It can stay or go. I really don't care.
Listening to you on this topic is like hearing a drowning man say they don't care anything about oxygen. This has everything to do with you, and if you're not pissed about it, you are not paying attention.
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Originally Posted by
sleepy dawg
Listening to you on this topic is like hearing a drowning man say they don't care anything about oxygen. This has everything to do with you, and if you're not pissed about it, you are not paying attention.
Ok, Sleepy tell me what I should be pissed about. I'm all ears and willing to listen. Shoot.
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Well back to basics and to keep it from getting locked. Net Neutrality was a good thing. One of the few purely good things this govt has ever done. This should never have been a political issue to begin with, but a bunch of politicians were bought and paid for. FCC was politicized to a critical point. Now we have the clearest failure of representation I can think of.
Thanks MS US Congress members. Thank you very much. Integrity sold for 10 pieces of silver, some less.
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Well I like the conversation fellas. Glad to know on this one issue, I think almost everyone can agree.
Now lets get this tax cut passed and hope it benefits people like us more than it benefits people with a few billion in the bank.
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Originally Posted by
Lord McBuckethead
Well I like the conversation fellas. Glad to know on this one issue, I think almost everyone can agree.
Now lets get this tax cut passed and hope it benefits people like us more than it benefits people with a few billion in the bank.
Hate to break it to you, but corporate and rich tax breaks have never resulted in a trickle down to folks like us. There’s plenty of economic research from post-WW2 until now that prove as much. I don’t like paying taxes either, but it’s undeniable which tax breaks actually do benefit the average person.
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Originally Posted by
Lord McBuckethead
Well I like the conversation fellas. Glad to know on this one issue, I think almost everyone can agree.
Now lets get this tax cut passed and hope it benefits people like us more than it benefits people with a few billion in the bank.
Standard deduction doubles. That should help a lot of ppl.
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Originally Posted by
preachermatt83
Standard deduction doubles. That should help a lot of ppl.
Kicking peanuts to the middle class while kicking millions/billions to the corporations and 1%ers isn’t really helping the middle class. It’s a bait and switch to get them on board for a plan that on the surface sounds good for them but in reality ****s them. End of story. There’s no 2 ways about it. Multiple center-right publications with strong big money leanings (Forbes, the Wall Street journal, etc) have bashed this tax plan as a giant cluster**** that is going to hurt Americans.
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Originally Posted by
Lord McBuckethead
Well I like the conversation fellas. Glad to know on this one issue, I think almost everyone can agree.
Now lets get this tax cut passed and hope it benefits people like us more than it benefits people with a few billion in the bank.
Well... you?re in for a 17?n shock. But if you?re a party line kinda guy, either you won?t acknowledge or you?ll somehow blame the other side.
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Originally Posted by
dparker
Elections have consequences
So does nominating unelectable people.
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Originally Posted by
SheltonChoked
Run like a business like the power company? Run like a business like the phone company?
Imagine if GE, who makes the power, made electric power that only worked with the appliances.
Yeah, this right here is one of the major concerns. All major ISPs are also content providers. What is to stop them now from only allowing access to their content, or charging an exorbitant rate to use someone else?s? That kills competition.
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Originally Posted by
BulldogDX55
Yeah, this right here is one of the major concerns. All major ISPs are also content providers. What is to stop them now from only allowing access to their content, or charging an exorbitant rate to use someone else?s? That kills competition.
The FCC will still have punitive power for egregious violations like you're talking about.
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Originally Posted by
Maroons
The FCC will still have punitive power for egregious violations like you're talking about.
No it won't...
The rules prohibited the following practices:BLOCKING Internet service providers could not discriminate against any lawful content by blocking websites or apps.
THROTTLING Service providers could not slow the transmission of data based on the nature of the content, as long as it is legal.
PAID PRIORITIZATION Service providers could not create an internet fast lane for companies and consumers who pay premiums, and a slow lane for those who don’t.
Pai told reporters complaints that were protected by Net Neutrality are now the problem of the FTC. If you find out about it...
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Originally Posted by
dawgs
Kicking peanuts to the middle class while kicking millions/billions to the corporations and 1%ers isn’t really helping the middle class. It’s a bait and switch to get them on board for a plan that on the surface sounds good for them but in reality ****s them. End of story. There’s no 2 ways about it. Multiple center-right publications with strong big money leanings (Forbes, the Wall Street journal, etc) have bashed this tax plan as a giant cluster**** that is going to hurt Americans.
Bush 41 said it best - it?s voodoo economics. Always has been. Anyone who believes Arthur Laffer is a bloody idiot. Just ask anyone living in Kansas how well it works.
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So, the internet?s been around since the 90?s and has operated openly and freely since its inception. But, now, we Should suddenly be concerned about *big, evil corporations* exploiting it for profit? And why? Because a politician tells you you should be?
If limiting access to certain websites is such a big concern, why weren?t the ISP?s doing it in 2000 - 2010? There were no Net Neutrality laws to prevent them from doing it. What stopped them then and what will continue to stop them now is the free market economy. If Comcast starts limiting access or charging more to access certain sites, they?ll lose customers and the market will force them to change their asinine policies.
Again, Net Neutrality is a government power grab framed as a solution to a non-existent problem. Why would you want to give the government control over something so important to your daily life? I mean, they did so well with healthcare, why not give them the internet too?
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Originally Posted by
drunkernhelldawg
That''s fair. But where is this? I can't seem to find a small ISP to subscribe with. My choices are only ATT or the cable company.
All his story shows is that this is good for he TeleComs and bad for literally everyone else.
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Originally Posted by
TrapGame
A few of y'all have your Lefty slips showing. If a righty really believes this is bad and can convince me I'll listen with an open mind but I'm not buying Lefty talking points.
There?s several in this thread already, but I guess you won?t take my word on that because my ?lefty slip? is showing. The guy who started this thread advocated for the tax plan ffs.
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