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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezsoil View Post
    It never amazes me the number of people who fail to realize that government regulation is nothing more than selecting winners and losers and limiting access to the free market by force. Licensing is nothing more than a barrier to market entry. Net Neutrality was a nifty name for government and not the marketplace to determine who can provide your servivce. I'd much rather have a free market where anyone can enter the market and provide any service that I'm willing to pay for .. than to have a limited number of providers who only offer a set of service standards as determined by government....I'm smart enough to determine what is good for me.
    But are you smart enough to realize that not anyone can jump into the market to compete for your dollars, not bc of regulation but bc it?s too damn expensive and risky to lay the infrastructure to compete against what is already there? Zero regulation only works in a perfect world. Complete government control has no place in reality either. Protecting consumers (this isn?t luxury products, it?s a cornerstone of our economy) is an excellent idea when we have no alternatives. I?m very okay with the Feds regulating the major gas pipelines that supply my local utility companies with their fuel. Why? Bc they are in a unique position to royally **** us over due to virtually zero competition. I?m okay with regulating broadband as well bc they could easily do the same - just with megabytes instead of molecules.

    All that said, it?s up to citizens to make sure that regulation doesn?t become overbearing and overextends its purpose of consumer protection. This knee jerk ?all regulations are bad? attitude I see today is not only lazy logic, it can be down right dangerous for our safety it we get too drunk with scaling essential regs back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezsoil View Post
    It never amazes me the number of people who fail to realize that government regulation is nothing more than selecting winners and losers and limiting access to the free market by force. Licensing is nothing more than a barrier to market entry. Net Neutrality was a nifty name for government and not the marketplace to determine who can provide your servivce. I'd much rather have a free market where anyone can enter the market and provide any service that I'm willing to pay for .. than to have a limited number of providers who only offer a set of service standards as determined by government....I'm smart enough to determine what is good for me.
    Ann Rand, Atlas Shrugged. Oh how the media and our youth have forgotten true freedom and embraced socialism.

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    ...and keep electing the same lifers year after year.

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    So...ya'll would rather the internet be like your phone or cell phone bill where you get hit with huge FCC fees and taxes? That's where Net Neutrality was headed.

    Pick your poison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TXDawg View Post
    So...ya'll would rather the internet be like your phone or cell phone bill where you get hit with huge FCC fees and taxes? That's where Net Neutrality was headed.

    Pick your poison.
    No it is not and it never was. Stop that. You clearly have no idea what you are talking about, as do most people who are against net neutrality.
    WHY IS EVERYONE YELLING?!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BulldogDX55 View Post
    No it is not and it never was. Stop that. You clearly have no idea what you are talking about, as do most people who are against net neutrality.
    Yeah...because the Federal Gov't was just going to benevolently "monitor" the internet for free? Net Neutrality was never anything more than a power grab and another gross over-reach by the Federal Government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TXDawg View Post
    Yeah...because the Federal Gov't was just going to benevolently "monitor" the internet for free? Net Neutrality was never anything more than a power grab and another gross over-reach by the Federal Government.
    The govt isn’t “monitoring” anything. (I mean they are but that has nothing to do with net neutrality). All the govt was doing is ensuring that you paid for an internet speed, that you then didn’t have to pay again for Netflix access. Or that your cnn.com loaded just as fast as your foxnews.com. This isn’t the govt picking and choosing winners, it was ensuring every website had equal access. I don’t know what the clarion ledger or the Starkville daily make as local newspapers from their online presence, but you can bet bigger, richer newspapers will be paying on their end to make sure their newspapers load faster than the local papers. It creates an environment where the rich can buy access and the upstarts have no chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TXDawg View Post
    Yeah...because the Federal Gov't was just going to benevolently "monitor" the internet for free? Net Neutrality was never anything more than a power grab and another gross over-reach by the Federal Government.
    ^^^^^^^ This all day....when you look back a year from now you won't notice anything different in your service, only that the Govt's dirty hands won't be as firmly gripped to it. Do you not think the govt. uses these agencies for political purposes? (IRS, FBI, EPA, etc.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doggie_Style View Post
    ^^^^^^^ This all day....when you look back a year from now you won't notice anything different in your service, only that the Govt's dirty hands won't be as firmly gripped to it. Do you not think the govt. uses these agencies for political purposes? (IRS, FBI, EPA, etc.)
    You’re wrong about there being no differences

    https://www.google.com/amp/www.latim...story,amp.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by TXDawg View Post
    Yeah...because the Federal Gov't was just going to benevolently "monitor" the internet for free? Net Neutrality was never anything more than a power grab and another gross over-reach by the Federal Government.
    Again, you have no clue what you are talking about at all, and you seem to grossly misunderstand the issue.

    Having this government regulation in place doesn't allow the government to monitor the internet and it doesn't give the government extra power. It is a rule that is in place that tells telecoms to lay off internet regulation that favors one thing over another, which would destroy competition. That's right- this regulation actually DECREASES regulation and INCREASES competition. It stops Comcast and Co. from doing to the internet what you are currently incorrectly imagining the government is doing to it.

    So, once again, please attempt to understand the issue before you comment on it.

    I swear, everyone who is in favor of what just happened has no idea what they are talking about in the slightest. It is just a bunch of people who get violently twitchy when they hear the phrase "government regulation".
    WHY IS EVERYONE YELLING?!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BulldogDX55 View Post
    Again, you have no clue what you are talking about at all, and you seem to grossly misunderstand the issue.

    Having this government regulation in place doesn't allow the government to monitor the internet and it doesn't give the government extra power. It is a rule that is in place that tells telecoms to lay off internet regulation that favors one thing over another, which would destroy competition. That's right- this regulation actually DECREASES regulation and INCREASES competition. It stops Comcast and Co. from doing to the internet what you are currently incorrectly imagining the government is doing to it.

    So, once again, please attempt to understand the issue before you comment on it.
    Maybe this will increase your understanding of the issue some:

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/24004...y-khachatrian#

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    Quote Originally Posted by BulldogDX55 View Post
    That's right- this regulation actually DECREASES regulation and INCREASES competition.

    I swear, everyone who is in favor of what just happened has no idea what they are talking about in the slightest. It is just a bunch of people who get violently twitchy when they hear the phrase "government regulation".
    Actually, leading economists and some Nobel Prize winners show research that says the exact opposite of what you're saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord McBuckethead View Post
    Harper, Gregg $33,800
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    Cochran, Thad $123,750
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    Trent Kelly should have held out for a bit more money. What a dumb ass.
    Holy shit!!! Hahahahahahaha! Was he the one that did our bidding for Cam Newton??

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    No more fake twitters or catfish..... Ole Miss is doomed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandwolf View Post
    Oh, grow up. This is in no way comparable to abortion.....the vast majority of Americans, regardless of their politics, agree on this issue. If you can't stand a discussion that calls out the Republicans (by both sides of the aisle) for dropping the ball on something then just don't click on the thread. People's inability/unwillingness to acknowledge **** ups by their party is a big part of the problem with the current state of politics in this country. And for the record, I am a Republican.
    Absolutely this all day!

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    If Comcast or uverse has an Ole Miss fan in a high position, be prepared to have a huge monthly fee to access Elite Dawgs, if they let us see it at all.

    If not us, it will be other websites, including ones you like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quaoarsking View Post
    If Comcast or uverse has an Ole Miss fan in a high position, be prepared to have a huge monthly fee to access Elite Dawgs, if they let us see it at all.

    If not us, it will be other websites, including ones you like.
    This is hyperbole, but yes that scenario is now in play. Not that it would ever happen.

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    TrapGame, you haven?t made any kind of argument as to why this is okay. All you?ve done is show that you?re a rabid partisan who can?t identify something bad happening even though even 70%+ of your party and 83% of society recognizes it as such. Great job!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BulldogDX55 View Post
    TrapGame, you haven?t made any kind of argument as to why this is okay. All you?ve done is show that you?re a rabid partisan who can?t identify something bad happening even though even 70%+ of your party and 83% of society recognizes it as such. Great job!
    Dude, I'll be honest. I really don't give a shit. My life revolves around other things. Net Neutrality ain't one. It can stay or go. I really don't care.

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