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    Quote Originally Posted by TrapGame View Post
    A few of y'all have your Lefty slips showing. If a righty really believes this is bad and can convince me I'll listen with an open mind but I'm not buying Lefty talking points.
    Good god

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    Quote Originally Posted by dawgs View Post
    Good god
    Yes, God is good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrapGame View Post
    A few of y'all have your Lefty slips showing. If a righty really believes this is bad and can convince me I'll listen with an open mind but I'm not buying Lefty talking points.
    Lmao at "I'm not listening to a Democrat." *This* is why our politics is a freaking disaster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluelightstar View Post
    Lmao at "I'm not listening to a Democrat." *This* is why our politics is a freaking disaster.
    Says the liberal.

    C'mon guys this is too easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrapGame View Post
    Says the liberal.

    C'mon guys this is too easy.
    Your troll game is very elaborate, baby cakes**

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrapGame View Post
    Says the liberal.

    C'mon guys this is too easy.
    Are you just deliberately trolling the thread or do you want to seriously discuss the issue at hand?

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    Anyone supporting anything Comcast wants needs to take the next Uber to Canada and stay there permanently

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrapGame View Post
    Seems appropriate to me.
    It doesn't seem appropriate to me. It seems insulting or denigrating. It's a term meant to drain respect from those to whom it is applied.

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    I do acknowledge that it may not be as bad as it seems. However, it was disgusting that the FCC insisted on going ahead with the vote even though millions of fake comments supporting the change have been revealed to have occured on the official FCC discussion of the issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drunkernhelldawg View Post
    I do acknowledge that it may not be as bad as it seems. However, it was disgusting that the FCC insisted on going ahead with the vote even though millions of fake comments supporting the change have been revealed to have occured on the official FCC discussion of the issue.
    Hell, I also acknowledge it might not end up being that bad. However, if we left NN in place, then we KNOW the potentially catastrophic things won?t happen. Why get rid of it? Who here actually trusts Comcast not to bend us over?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezsoil View Post
    It never amazes me the number of people who fail to realize that government regulation is nothing more than selecting winners and losers and limiting access to the free market by force. Licensing is nothing more than a barrier to market entry. Net Neutrality was a nifty name for government and not the marketplace to determine who can provide your servivce. I'd much rather have a free market where anyone can enter the market and provide any service that I'm willing to pay for .. than to have a limited number of providers who only offer a set of service standards as determined by government....I'm smart enough to determine what is good for me.
    But are you smart enough to realize that not anyone can jump into the market to compete for your dollars, not bc of regulation but bc it?s too damn expensive and risky to lay the infrastructure to compete against what is already there? Zero regulation only works in a perfect world. Complete government control has no place in reality either. Protecting consumers (this isn?t luxury products, it?s a cornerstone of our economy) is an excellent idea when we have no alternatives. I?m very okay with the Feds regulating the major gas pipelines that supply my local utility companies with their fuel. Why? Bc they are in a unique position to royally **** us over due to virtually zero competition. I?m okay with regulating broadband as well bc they could easily do the same - just with megabytes instead of molecules.

    All that said, it?s up to citizens to make sure that regulation doesn?t become overbearing and overextends its purpose of consumer protection. This knee jerk ?all regulations are bad? attitude I see today is not only lazy logic, it can be down right dangerous for our safety it we get too drunk with scaling essential regs back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BulldogDX55 View Post
    Who here actually trusts Comcast not to bend us over?
    Nobody trusts Comcast. The Trump Trolls are just getting what they love best right now. Ruffling the feathers of the rest of us "snowflakes". They don't care that it will cost them more money because it's worth it to them to enjoy pissing off everyone else. Trump Trolls are now awaiting their leader to issue the next troll. Should be only days away. One big one happens once a week on schedule.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg View Post
    This is it. I know I guy that owns a small ISP in Mississippi. He said net neutrality basically forced him to subsidize companies like Hula and Netflix by providing their infrastructure for them . It forced Comcast and the like subsidize their competitors. It wasn't fair. It favored some companies over others. It was crony capitalism at the highest level.
    This is why net neutrality was passed. Comcast started charging Netflix a fee to not throttle them. In 2013. Here is the WSJ story.
    https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/net...ing-1393175346

    Now it begins again.... Getting ready to pay more for content. Or I hope you like NBC universal programming.

    And your friend was not forced by Netflix and Hulu. He was forced to to continue to deliver the bandwidth he sold to his customers. We don't let the power company off the hook when they cut off your power because you use too much, and still charge you. Isp's shouldn't either.
    Last edited by SheltonChoked; 12-14-2017 at 09:04 PM.

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    Another reason y'all should be pissed about today is that it's going to be dragged out in the courts for awhile costing billions of tax dollars. I believe 22 states have already filed to sue the FCC because of the decision today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SheltonChoked View Post
    This is why net neutrality was passed. Comcast started charging Netflix a fee to not throttle them. In 2013. Here is the WSJ story.
    https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/net...ing-1393175346

    Now it begins again.... Getting ready to pay more for content. Or I hope you like NBC universal programming.
    I?m just hoping Obama comes out with a public service message that it is a bad idea to jump off a cliff.

    It would amount to genocide.

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    Not too bad for Netflix, cause they are established and have a company that could possibly pay for it. They will raise rates.

    Now for the next "Netflix"....well they do not have the capital to pay the bullshit toll. Their service will slow down to a crawl. They will go bankrupt.
    Downvotes_Hype

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    This thread is most definitely headed for the political board so if anyone wants to contribute to it when it does be sure to PM Scoobadawg and ask for access as he is the only one with the keys to the stable.

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    I’d feel like a ***** if I didn’t think I could live without the interwebs.

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    Look guys I'm sure there are pros and cons. I'm not sold on the robber barons of the internet argument. It's been enlightening but I'm out of this discussion. I'm not here to be an asshole and spew venom.

    I really just want to talk sports. Have a good one. Merry Christmas and Happy Hanukkah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrapGame View Post
    Look guys I'm sure there are pros and cons. I'm not sold on the robber barons of the internet argument. It's been enlightening but I'm out of this discussion. I'm not here to be an asshole and spew venom.

    I really just want to talk sports. Have a good one. Merry Christmas and Happy Hanukkah.
    the rubber Barron's of the internet is not an argument. It's history. It happened. That's how we got the FCC net neutrality in the first place. Read my WSJ link above.

    Then think, would I even know what the next Netflix is if they had to pay the isp's for bandwidth.

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