Moorhead?s staff

[Shake 'n Bake]

So it looks like Moorhead?s originally 9man staff will be:
QB Breiner
RB Huff
WR Joe Brady
TE Hud
OL Johnson
DL Baker
LB Tem Lukabu
CB Ambrose
S Shoop

Question is who is going to recruit players. Cohen made claims of us saving money to spend on the staff and we didn?t hire a single recruiter outside of Huff

[msstate7]

First I have heard of lukabu. Any good info on him?

[dawgday166]

http://www.49ers.com/team/coaches/Te...site_temporary

[msstate7]

http://www.49ers.com/team/coaches/Te...site_temporary

Moorhead hire or shoop? Is Ambrose Moorhead or shoop hire?

[dawgday166]

Moorhead hire or shoop? Is Ambrose Moorhead or shoop hire?

I imagine Moorhead on Iukabu. He worked as DC for 2 months at Fordham then jumped to NFL. There's nothing definite on his hire yet tho. Just some good sources on 247 are saying they have heard some things along these lines.

https://www.ninersnation.com/platfor...coaching-staff

I don't know who would be hiring Ambrose if he gets hired.

[BeardoMSU]

[MafiaDawg]

Overall this staff is disappointing with the amount of money available. zero proven SEC recruiters. That's pitiful.

[ShotgunDawg]

Overall this staff is disappointing with the about of money available. zero proven SEC recruiters. That's pitiful.

Pretty atrocious take here

[dawgday166]

Overall this staff is disappointing with the about of money available. zero proven SEC recruiters. That's pitiful.

I'm a little disappointed in a couple maybe, but in wait and see mode. Trusting Moorhead for now. He should be able to win 8 next year regardless. I mean Mullen was constantly going through coordinators, position coaches etc.

Only 8 wins next year may be a little disappointing, but I always give a coach 3 years anyway when they first come in. I'm hoping the transition isn't too difficult for team and the team leadership will help out a lot too.

I think Moorhead will be much better recruiter than Dan. Figure Johnson will crush Hev at recruiting. I believe Hud is good at recruiting. Huff is supposed to be outstanding. Don't know how Shoop is. Then you're keeping all the off-the-field guys. I think recruiting will be ok ... probably can't be worse than it has been as a whole unless they're terrible.

ETA: I sorta believe Moorhead may have whiffed on a couple to 3 hires a good bit.

[BuckyIsAB****]

I'm a little disappointed in a couple maybe, but in wait and see mode. Trusting Moorhead for now. He should be able to win 8 next year regardless. I mean Mullen was constantly going through coordinators, position coaches etc.

Only 8 wins next year may be a little disappointing, but I always give a coach 3 years anyway when they first come in. I'm hoping the transition isn't too difficult for team and the team leadership will help out a lot too.

I think Moorhead will be much better recruiter than Dan. Figure Johnson will crush Hev at recruiting. I believe Hud is good at recruiting. Huff is supposed to be outstanding. Don't know how Shoop is. Then you're keeping all the off-the-field guys. I think recruiting will be ok ... probably can't be worse than it has been as a whole unless they're terrible.

ETA: I sorta believe Moorhead may have whiffed on a couple to 3 hires a good bit.

8 wins next year with the team we have would be extremely disappointing and would make me worry about Moorhead

[dawgday166]

8 wins next year with the team we have would be extremely disappointing and would make me worry about Moorhead

I'd be a little disappointed, but also realize it takes a little time for a new coach (see Kirby). I also believe we'd have had 10 at best with Don, and probably only 9. He'd screw up 1 to 2 games.

[Leeshouldveflanked]

I'd be a little disappointed, but also realize it takes a little time for a new coach (see Kirby). I also believe we'd have had 10 at best with Don, and probably only 9. He'd screw up 1 to 2 games.

Don would lose to Ole Miss, Auburn, BAMA and LSU next year if he was still at MSU...

[Todd4State]

Overall this staff is disappointing with the amount of money available. zero proven SEC recruiters. That's pitiful.

Huff was rated the fourth best recruiter in the country. He was at Vanderbilt and has hit the ground running. Hud certainly is proven in the SEC- and it would have been even better had he not left in 2011. Johnson and Ambrose are both from Mississippi and then Ambrose is from NOLA originally. Baker is with us and is a good recruiter and Shoop is a good recruiter as well who has been at Vandy and Tennessee.

I like the staff a lot.

[Liverpooldawg]

Overall this staff is disappointing with the amount of money available. zero proven SEC recruiters. That's pitiful.

We now have the view from Oxford, lol.

[maroonmania]

Overall this staff is disappointing with the amount of money available. zero proven SEC recruiters. That's pitiful.

I'm OK with the staff but I guess I'm not really seeing the type hires that would require Moorhead to hold his salary down to pay them. Some of the bigger names (Shoop and Hud) don't have jobs right now and some of the others are not ones you would think that would draw major salaries given their experience level and the programs we pulled them from (like Duke and Boise St.). Now if we were pulling people like a Don Brown THEN it would make sense to move some of the HC pay over to an assistant.

[MafiaDawg]

None of these guys have any pre existing relationships with Mississippi high school programs. Well maybe hud does but it's been a while since he's hit the trail hard. We whiffed big time. It sucks.

[gravedigger]

Overall this staff is disappointing with the amount of money available. zero proven SEC recruiters. That's pitiful.

Astute observation. If you haven?t been proven to convince someone to come to an sec school it is obvious that you will be pitiful at it.

[MetEdDawg]

Ties are important but overrated. Kids these days like relationships and it isn’t always about where you came from. Can you talk to the kids? Can you make them see your vision for their future? What credibility do you have?

Take it from me as a high school teacher that has taught and currently teaches kids who are being recruited by P5 and G5 schools. They like relationships and people who know how to relate to them. They don’t care where you are from. They care about where you’ve been and there’s a difference. Our staff as it seems like it’s going to be established has HC experience, will have some NFL experience both playing and coaching, will have some MS guys on it, and will have guys that have extensive P5 experience.

What more do we want? Some of us want splashy names that look good on paper but may not have any substance. We don’t need personalities. We need people willing to sacrifice for the greater vision of MSU. I like what we’ve done so far and I believe Moorhead wouldn’t do anything that would hurt us.

[Todd4State]

On top of that, we're probably adding Scott Fountain as a special teams coach- has been at Auburn and is currently an analyst at Georgia and we're likely to keep Boniol so that upgrades our special teams as well. That's one of the good things about Hevesy leaving- we don't have to waste a spot on someone that can recruit solely because he can't or won't.

[MafiaDawg]

Yes. It makes it a hell of a lot more risky. Again none of these guys have current relationships with Mississippi high schools. They've been all out of state either their whole life or at least the last few years. It would have been too smart and too easy to keep 2/3 guys on staff (DJ/ Tbuck) who could check those boxes. But we like to make it hard.