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    Quote Originally Posted by MoreCowbell View Post
    Mullen may have dipped out without saying much but that?s the way the business is. He could have handled it a little better but honestly, no matter what he said there would be people who hold it against him. I think he went out in the best possible way that would help us secure the next head coach easiest. Had he told recruits and players he was leaving they would have jumped ship and given up on the season. He let the people know that needed to know he was leaving and I really think he had State?s best interest in mind when doing this. We were great to him for 9 years and he changed our football program by setting the foundation for future success. He was smart enough to see the blueprint for State to compete and put that plan into action. He may be weird and he may be different but he and his family truly love and always will love State and Starkville and I hate to see it end like this. Hopefully down the road the people who feel betrayed will soften on that stance. He gave us a great 9 years and elevated the program and he did it THE RIGHT WAY. I?m thankful for Mullen and understand he needed a new challenge in life. I will always be grateful to Mullen and I hope State honors him in the future because he absolutely deserves it. I wish him success at Florida unless playing against us.
    I personally think it is self serving. Some people jump on the bus as it leaves the station, others drive the bus. When the hate threads started, others piled on. They thought it was cute to invent names for Dan Mullen. Are we disappointed he left? Yes, I think 95% are deeply disappointed. I think they channeled their disappointment into attempts to be funny. We experienced some of the best football in our history. Dan built that. Dan does not deserve it. College football has become a business. If you were CEO of ABC Manufacturing, and DEF Corporation came after you with a huge pay raise and a better location to live, you would go too!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoreCowbell View Post
    Mullen may have dipped out without saying much but that?s the way the business is. He could have handled it a little better but honestly, no matter what he said there would be people who hold it against him. I think he went out in the best possible way that would help us secure the next head coach easiest. Had he told recruits and players he was leaving they would have jumped ship and given up on the season. He let the people know that needed to know he was leaving and I really think he had State?s best interest in mind when doing this. We were great to him for 9 years and he changed our football program by setting the foundation for future success. He was smart enough to see the blueprint for State to compete and put that plan into action. He may be weird and he may be different but he and his family truly love and always will love State and Starkville and I hate to see it end like this. Hopefully down the road the people who feel betrayed will soften on that stance. He gave us a great 9 years and elevated the program and he did it THE RIGHT WAY. I?m thankful for Mullen and understand he needed a new challenge in life. I will always be grateful to Mullen and I hope State honors him in the future because he absolutely deserves it. I wish him success at Florida unless playing against us.

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    His regular season avg was 7.1 wins vs 4.9 losses. So just over a 7-5 coach on average. Also to his credit, he left the program in a great place. Some think that's good, some think it's not enough.

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    I appreciate what he did for us, I supported him from the get go. That being said I don't appreciate how he left and some of the stuff he's spreading among the uf faithful about Cohen and our admin are really not cool. No hate, just extreme disappointment in the way he's handled his departure, appreciate what he did, now glad he's gone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Commercecomet24 View Post
    I appreciate what he did for us, I supported him from the get go. That being said I don't appreciate how he left and some of the stuff he's spreading among the uf faithful about Cohen and our admin are really not cool. No hate, just extreme disappointment in the way he's handled his departure, appreciate what he did, now glad he's gone.
    What's he saying about Cohen and company?

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstatelp1 View Post
    What's he saying about Cohen and company?
    He's saying that the reason he left was he asked for 5 million and 300k in raises for his coaches and that Cohen said I can't do that. He's telling people there that Cohen is only interested in putting money in the baseball program and nothing else. Quote "Hope the new coach is interested in playing second fiddle to the baseball team". This comes from someone close to the uf program.

    I don't buy ole Danny boys story for one minute considering what resources our admin has put into ALL sports here. I think he was just ready to go. It's fine if you want to move on but talk down about our admin and especially Cohen who is one of us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Commercecomet24 View Post
    He's saying that the reason he left was he asked for 5 million and 300k in raises for his coaches and that Cohen said I can't do that. He's telling people there that Cohen is only interested in putting money in the baseball program and nothing else. Quote "Hope the new coach is interested in playing second fiddle to the baseball team". This comes from someone close to the uf program.

    I don't buy ole Danny boys story for one minute considering what resources our admin has put into ALL sports here. I think he was just ready to go. It's fine if you want to move on but talk down about our admin and especially Cohen who is one of us.
    He was already a top 15 paid coach and Grantham was paid $1 Mill per year with a 3 year deal. It sounds like he wanted a "reason" to leave. Baseball coaches are paid drastically below football so I don't know how much money going into baseball would even affect football. Unless he wanted some kind of facility upgrade and Cohen said it would have to wait until the baseball stadium was finished. Baseball is also our best opportunity to win a National Championship at MSU. Football and basketball (M&W) is a tougher environment. Women's basketball is probably the next best chance after baseball but UConn is like Bama football on steriods.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Commercecomet24 View Post
    He's saying that the reason he left was he asked for 5 million and 300k in raises for his coaches and that Cohen said I can't do that. He's telling people there that Cohen is only interested in putting money in the baseball program and nothing else. Quote "Hope the new coach is interested in playing second fiddle to the baseball team". This comes from someone close to the uf program.

    I don't buy ole Danny boys story for one minute considering what resources our admin has put into ALL sports here. I think he was just ready to go. It's fine if you want to move on but talk down about our admin and especially Cohen who is one of us.
    $300k for Grantham and the defensive staff? - I bet Cohen was down for that. $300k more for Gonzo and Hev? I hope Cohen told him to cram that up his ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg View Post
    $300k for Grantham and the defensive staff? - I bet Cohen was down for that. $300k more for Gonzo and Hev? I hope Cohen told him to cram that up his ass.
    Just excuses to leave, I guess an attempt to build himself up and to make the uf fanbase feel like they are a bigger fish and have more "resources" than poor ole State. Extremely disappointing to me on his part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Commercecomet24 View Post
    He's saying that the reason he left was he asked for 5 million and 300k in raises for his coaches and that Cohen said I can't do that. He's telling people there that Cohen is only interested in putting money in the baseball program and nothing else. Quote "Hope the new coach is interested in playing second fiddle to the baseball team". This comes from someone close to the uf program.

    I don't buy ole Danny boys story for one minute considering what resources our admin has put into ALL sports here. I think he was just ready to go. It's fine if you want to move on but talk down about our admin and especially Cohen who is one of us.
    That's pretty funny coming from a guy who was Florida's FOURTH choice and shares an office with Steve Spurrier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Commercecomet24 View Post
    I appreciate what he did for us, I supported him from the get go. That being said I don't appreciate how he left and some of the stuff he's spreading among the uf faithful about Cohen and our admin are really not cool. No hate, just extreme disappointment in the way he's handled his departure, appreciate what he did, now glad he's gone.
    Nevermind already answered
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    - I don't hate Mullen & actually am thankful for everything he did for MSU program, except losing a few Egg Bowls while trying to get another job.

    - I've lost a ton of respect for him by how he has handled this change, continues to recruit players that are committed to a program he built, & how it's clear that he thought he was better than MSU, due to how he never embraced the state or the town. That's not a requirement for a coach, but it still would've shown a lot.

    - I hope he falls on his face & sucks it up at Florida because that increases the value of the MSU coaching job. Mullen stinking at Florida shows that MSU can be a destination job as leaving for a more prominent school does not guarantee success.
    Why do you think he never embraced starkville or Mississippi?

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    Quote Originally Posted by confucius say View Post
    Why do you think he never embraced starkville or Mississippi?
    He just never spoke about how it was home or built the town up.

    In hindsight, Mullen did a great job but I don't think he was ever "All in"

    I think in his heart he just felt he was better than MSU or Starkville & that made it difficult for him to sell the place.

    While he did a great job at MSU, I think he viewed the MSU as a means to an end rather than a destination & that always kept him from getting over the hump.

    It would be great if we had a coach that was a great offensive mind & was all in to embrace Starkville & win big here hell or high water. We'll see if Moorhead is that guy. His Pittsburgh & steel mill background offers me hope that he has the type of background of someone that can sell & embrace the state of Mississippi at the necessary level to sell it to kids & families across the country. I think Moorhead's background offers him a greater chance of relating & embracing Mississippi people
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    He just never spoke about how it was home or built the town up.

    In hindsight, Mullen did a great job but I don't think he was ever "All in"

    I think in his heart he just felt he was better than MSU or Starkville & that made it difficult for him to sell the place.

    While he did a great job at MSU, I think he viewed the MSU as a means to an end rather than a destination & that always kept him from getting over the hump.

    I would be great if we had a coach that was a great offensive mind & was all in to embrace Starkville & win big here hell or high water. We'll see if Moorhead is that guy. His Pittsburgh & steel mill background offers me hope that he has the type of background of someone that can sell & embrace the state of Mississippi at the necessary level to sell it to kids & families across the country. I think Moorhead's background offers him a greater chance of relating & embracing Mississippi people
    It always seemed like he was telling you what you wanted to hear but it always seemed not quite genuine. Looking back, I think I believed they liked Starkville because I wanted to think that. I personally would like to live there but it is more of my love for the university than anything else. Dan didn't have that and it kind of showed through the cracks. It is similar to how he looked getting off the plane at UF. He is smiling and doing the gator chomp but you can tell there is disappointment there because of the lack of fans or enthusiasm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe View Post
    It always seemed like he was telling you what you wanted to hear but it always seemed not quite genuine. Looking back, I think I believed they liked Starkville because I wanted to think that. I personally would like to live there but it is more of my love for the university than anything else. Dan didn't have that and it kind of showed through the cracks. It is similar to how he looked getting off the plane at UF. He is smiling and doing the gator chomp but you can tell there is disappointment there because of the lack of fans or enthusiasm.
    That's a very good description of how i feel as well.

    Yeah the gator chomp coming off the plane and the smile looked awfully forced. Like he was expecting way more in the form of a greeting. The scene at the airport was kind of sad to be honest, especially compared to the reception Coach Moorhead received.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Commercecomet24 View Post
    That's a very good description of how i feel as well.

    Yeah the gator chomp coming off the plane and the smile looked awfully forced. Like he was expecting way more in the form of a greeting. The scene at the airport was kind of sad to be honest, especially compared to the reception Coach Moorhead received.
    Entirely different ends of the spectrum from fan excitement. We are pumped we were able to get such a good coach to replace Mullen and UF is disappointed that Chip Kelly, Scott Frost, and Mike Gundy turned them down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe View Post
    It always seemed like he was telling you what you wanted to hear but it always seemed not quite genuine. Looking back, I think I believed they liked Starkville because I wanted to think that. I personally would like to live there but it is more of my love for the university than anything else. Dan didn't have that and it kind of showed through the cracks. It is similar to how he looked getting off the plane at UF. He is smiling and doing the gator chomp but you can tell there is disappointment there because of the lack of fans or enthusiasm.
    I don’t think Dan and Megan disliked Starkville. I just think they were indifferent to it. Dan could sell his football program, but had trouble selling the school or town.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    I don?t think Dan and Megan disliked Starkville. I just think they were indifferent to it. Dan could sell his football program, but had trouble selling the school or town.
    . Megan seems to really like it. Moved her parents down. She tailgated near us with a big group of friends.

    Mullen could care less where he lives. He liked Starkville ok, he'd like anywhere ok. He is single minded and highly ambitious. All he cares about other than family is football.

    He will go, and like and sell, where ever he is to win football games. He lived in Harlem for christ sake just so he could ride a train for 2 hours every morning to be a GA.

    Football is all that matters
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    It’s starting to sound like somebody’s ex on Facebook that just can’t shut up about how the guy did her wrong (even though she was a stay at home mom and got the $500,000 house), the one you eventually unfollow because you don’t want to see it anymore.

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    It's just like hating the villain in wrassling. It more fun to boo him and call him names. All of.us know and appreciate that Dan raised the bar for us but that doesn't mean we have to kowtow to his memory for the rest of time. Over time he will be remembered fondly but he will also be remembered as the coach that quit before finishing the job.

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