Ole Miss and the impact of #TheNetworks downfall

[Entodawg]

Once they lose the appeal and they vacate 7 seasons, the SEC should ask for 7 years of bowl money back. That should be about a $50M fine. I’ll be satisfied with the penalties if that happens.

[sleepy dawg]

Once they lose the appeal and they vacate 7 seasons, the SEC should ask for 7 years of bowl money back. That should be about a $50M fine. I?ll be satisfied with the penalties if that happens.

very close to 0% chance this happens.

[bobtail bob]

It's no coincidence that when a certain judge buyer got out of jail their recruiting rankings shot up. The same cronies that were bought are still in place and love owning people. Be it whores or football players. They were taping people for gods sake. Why ? The governor just had a building named for him on campus, he's more property .The head of the snake is still intact. The ones they caught were low hanging fruit . It will soon be business as usual.
Did they ever release the name of all the boosters ?

[Todd4State]

I don't understand why they didn't lose more scholarships either. But there is no doubt that there was a lot of collateral damage done. Even being under investigation hurt them a lot and it absolutely will affect them negatively going forward. They lost millions trying to fight the NCAA- not to mention that they aren't going to be very good at football for a few years. Which costs them in the form of season tickets, apparel (people more likely to buy a new t-shirt or hat if the team is doing well), and many other things that aren't seen on the final NCAA docket. The impending 10 or so transfers are going to hurt them as well. I'm also fairly certain Luke won't be successful there and just had his best season in his career for them. Unless he gets incredibly lucky again- you'll have to excuse me for not believing that beating Kentucky on the last play and hurting MSU's QB as a sustainable game plan for success. And we all know how Ole Miss coaching tenures end- usually with a massive bridge being burned.

Yes, they probably will keep cheating- but they're going to have to be a lot more careful about it. Or they're going to have to spend more millions fighting the NCAA again. At least until 2020.

They also won't be going up against Dan Mullen in recruiting which to be honest was a big factor in why they were able to recruit certain position groups well in state- like WR and o-line specifically- but didn't fare nearly as well on the defensive side of the ball where most of Dan's best recruiters were.

[Bully13]

retaining Luke is quite telling. says they are 17'd for the foreseeable future knowing nobody worth a damn would come near that job.

[bomanishus]

the real NETWORK is still very much intact....these guys named so far are just wannabes. this will not be more than a slight hiccup for the time-proven methods they use, they'll just put more controls in place....if those recruits thought recording Leo's mom was excessive, they need to buckle up because they ain't seen nothing yet!!! don't be surprised at how high-tech the enemy goes in this from this moment forward. best to be shrewd as serpents and innocent as doves from this point forward....that. is. all.

[Todd4State]

the real NETWORK is still very much intact....these guys named so far are just wannabes. this will not be more than a slight hiccup for the time-proven methods they use, they'll just put more controls in place....if those recruits thought recording Leo's mom was excessive, they need to buckle up because they ain't seen nothing yet!!! don't be surprised at how high-tech the enemy goes in this from this moment forward. best to be shrewd as serpents and innocent as doves from this point forward....that. is. all.

Or we can just choose to hire the same law firm they did instead of overpenalizing ourselves. At least that's what I would do.

[starkvegasdawg]

The NCAA did sanction them per the matrix. The big issue I see with it is that they classified the case as Level 1 - Standard, as opposed to Level 1 - Aggravated, and then they reduced scholarships by only 15% which is on the low end of the matrix's range for Level 1 - Standard (12.5%-25%). I just don't see how a case with that many violations -- including academic fraud, pay for play, coaches setting up recruits with boosters, LOIC and the head coaching responsibility charge -- could qualify as anything other than Aggravated (I thought it would based on the LOIC charge alone). At the very least it should have included the most severe Standard penalties that the matrix would allow.

Bottom line is that if this case didn't meet the criteria for Level 1 - Aggravated, then I don't see how any case ever will without it being in the repeat violator window.

That is 12-25% per level one violation. They had 15 of them. Then 1-2 year bowl ban per violation. Based on that alone they should have given them a 15-30 year bowl ban and docked them 130% of their scholarships. So no, they came nowhere near the matrix.

[thf24]

That is 12-25% per level one violation. They had 15 of them. Then 1-2 year bowl ban per violation. Based on that alone they should have given them a 15-30 year bowl ban and docked them 130% of their scholarships. So no, they came nowhere near the matrix.

The matrix isn't intended to be a summation of the individual violations. The case is subjectively given a single one of one of the classifications after consideration of the violations, and that's where the penalties come from. That didn't become clear until the past few months, but they did in fact stick to the matrix as it's intended to be applied.

[Spiderman]

The matrix isn't intended to be a summation of the individual violations. The case is subjectively given a single one of one of the classifications after consideration of the violations, and that's where the penalties come from. That didn't become clear until the past few months, but they did in fact stick to the matrix as it's intended to be applied.

There should be no subjectivity. It should be common sense and completely fair to all.

If a violation is deemed to be a Level 1, the penalty should be X. Level 2 should be X. Level 3 should be X. A certain number of Level ones should be X post season ban.

But common sense is lacking everywhere

[thf24]

There should be no subjectivity. It should be common sense and completely fair to all.

If a violation is deemed to be a Level 1, the penalty should be X. Level 2 should be X. Level 3 should be X. A certain number of Level ones should be X post season ban.

But common sense is lacking everywhere

Agreed. It's obvious what the NCAA's intent with the matrix was now. Have a piece of literature that looks tough to show off, but leave themselves plenty of room to go light when it actually comes down to punishing someone.

[redstickdawg]

Agreed. It's obvious what the NCAA's intent with the matrix was now. Have a piece of literature that looks tough to show off, but leave themselves plenty of room to go light when it actually comes down to punishing someone.

The "matrix" is so broad and vague that it allows them to do nothing as was the case with om. They are so afraid of a lawsuit that they will never punish another school in a meaningful way ever again, or at least until they have leadership that has a spine.

[Bully13]

let's wait and see if they pull off any surprises in the weeks that follow and next year's class. that's the only way if mine and other's opinion or those with opinions that differ will tell as to who is right or who is wrong. is their weak commitment list at the moment due to the cloud or Network shut down?

[Perpetual Underachiever]

Lost in the echo of what many deem as ?disappointing? is this specific sanction: ?Recruits can only take one unofficial visit to Ole Miss each academic year for the length of the probation.?

How many unofficial visits are usually allowed?

[lastmajordog]

delete

[Churchill]

As long as it's OK for.... Cam to be rented like a mule, for Tunsil's mother to just miraculously end up with a "second home" in Oxford, for Shay Shay's useless ass brother to draw six figures to work in the athletic laundry room and on and on and on there will be a "network" at OM and most other SEC schools. For those that don't have a network and the savvy to work the loopholes there's always the Indy and Liberty Bowls.

[PassInterference]

I understand the last remaining unnamed booster still has a date with Rosie and the Supreme Court.

Can?t wait for his name to be released. He?s apparently affected by it.

[Spiderman]

I understand the last remaining unnamed booster still has a date with Rosie and the Supreme Court.

Can?t wait for his name to be released. He?s apparently affected by it.

The Sanctions said OM had to name them all publicly.