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Originally Posted by
msstate7
26-21 at philly with playoff appearance. SF was horrible
Playoff appearance in his first year. The trend on his teams in the NFL was downward and with more control he got the worse he did on the field. Now that doesn't mean he won't be great in college but there is concern. Especially since the was basically handed the keys at Oregon, he didn't build up to that point. He did do a great job keeping it headed in the right direction and add to it but then again you have the show cause that shows you how he added to what Oregon was doing.
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Florida will set the salary that UCLA will have to pay.
Death penalty or bust!!!***
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Originally Posted by
Really Clark?
Playoff appearance in his first year. The trend on his teams in the NFL was downward and with more control he got the worse he did on the field. Now that doesn't mean he won't be great in college but there is concern. Especially since the was basically handed the keys at Oregon, he didn't build up to that point. He did do a great job keeping it headed in the right direction and add to it but then again you have the show cause that shows you how he added to what Oregon was doing.
Same record in year 2 as year 1. Maybe he sucked as an NFL GM/HC, but I think he is a good HC on either level
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
Same record in year 2 as year 1. Maybe he sucked as an NFL GM/HC, but I think he is a good HC on either level
And fired in year 3 at 6-9 and they didn't let him finish the year. After those 2 10-6 years they didn't even let him finish the year it got so bad. Red Flag. I think he is a very good OC and MAY be a good head coach but we have 3 years at the college level that he did really well at program that was clicking on all cylinders anyway even before he was OC. To get to the next level he cheated, got a show cause and bolted for the NFL. At best after his first two years he couldn't finish out the season the next 2 years he sucked so bad and was very hard for either team to work with. To me this has boom or bust all over it and with the extra baggage, not just the show cause but his relationship with GM and owners, just some major red flags to me.
Last edited by Really Clark?; 11-22-2017 at 11:52 AM.
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As a general rule, fat people lack the discipline to be hyper-successful.
Everyone wants to be a beast...until its time to do what beasts do.
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Let me ask this...and forgive me for my stupidity. It has been suggested that Willie Taggert would eventually come back to the south. If Fla. or one of the other SEC schools went after Taggert, would Kelly be back in play for Oregon? I don't know if he left there on good terms or not, that's why I'm asking.
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I lived in Westwood for awhile. UCLA fans are kinda lukewarm on football, basketball is their thing. USC is the football school in Los Angeles.
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Originally Posted by
Commercecomet24
I lived in Westwood for awhile. UCLA fans are kinda lukewarm on football, basketball is their thing. USC is the football school in Los Angeles.
Winning changes a lot.
Everyone wants to be a beast...until its time to do what beasts do.
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Originally Posted by
Leroy Jenkins
Winning changes a lot.
You are assuming Kelly would win at UCLA, that's a BIG assumption. I don't think anyone wins at UCLA consistently. The gap in their own town is just to great.
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Originally Posted by
Liverpooldawg
You are assuming Kelly would win at UCLA, that's a BIG assumption. I don't think anyone wins at UCLA consistently. The gap in their own town is just to great.
Yeah that's where I was going with my post above.
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Originally Posted by
Liverpooldawg
You are assuming Kelly would win at UCLA, that's a BIG assumption. I don't think anyone wins at UCLA consistently. The gap in their own town is just to great.
Probably the same take everyone had on MSU before we went to #1.
Everyone wants to be a beast...until its time to do what beasts do.
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Originally Posted by
Leroy Jenkins
Probably the same take everyone had on MSU before we went to #1.
Except it is FACT out there. It's no take.
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Originally Posted by
Really Clark?
And fired in year 3 at 6-9 and they didn't let him finish the year. After those 2 10-6 years they didn't even let him finish the year it got so bad. Red Flag. I think he is a very good OC and MAY be a good head coach but we have 3 years at the college level that he did really well at program that was clicking on all cylinders anyway even before he was OC. To get to the next level he cheated, got a show cause and bolted for the NFL which at best after his first two years he couldn't finish out the season the next 2 years he sucked so bad and was very hard for either team to work with. To me this has boom or bust all over it and with the extra baggage, not just the show cause but his relationship with GM and owners, just some major red flags to me.
3 losses by a combined 6 points and another loss in OT. The difference in winning and losing in the nfl is razor thin. I do not think the year is near as bad as you, but oh well
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
3 losses by a combined 6 points and another loss in OT. The difference in winning and losing in the nfl is razor thin. I do not think the year is near as bad as you, but oh well
And 95% of the coaches would not have been fired over just that. The behind the scenes issues and trend with the team were and are a concern
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Originally Posted by
Really Clark?
And 95% of the coaches would not have been fired over just that. The behind the scenes issues and trend with the team were and are a concern
Ok, the line is drawn... you do not like kelly and I do. What we betting for next season? I say he wins at least 8 at UCLA or Florida, which is a big improvement. Sig bet? Lol
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
Ok, the line is drawn... you do not like kelly and I do. What we betting for next season? I say he wins at least 8 at UCLA or Florida, which is a big improvement. Sig bet? Lol
Ha. I don't dislike him, think he is a very good OC and smart with plays, but just not sold that he is a homerun hire to run a program. 8 wins is the floor he can be at those schools and the jury would still be out.
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Kelly is a weird fat dude. No telling what he'll do.
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It doesn't matter if WE like Kelly or not; he will land at either Florida or UCLA.
If it were me, I would coach UCLA before getting into the toxic environment in Gainesville.
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TN is so screwed. If Kelly takes the FL job, he'll own them. If he doesn't, FL takes their likely best candidate.
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Twitter say Kelly turned down an offer from Tennessee. The Vols better just assume their position as 2nd or 3rd tier in the SEC. They are no longer attractive.
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