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Originally Posted by
Apoplectic
why should i pay for some people to have nice seats at a sporting event? Also why should i pay for parks, libraries, and sanctuary services for east and west coast states? The school will figure out a way to find the money as will the liberal states.....if they really need to find something to spend it on.
No one tell him that those dagum liberals in other states subsidize a ton of Mississippi's programs. Seriously, Mississippi relies on the federal government more than nearly almost every other state. For every dollar that Mississippi sends to the federal government, the fed sends back 3. Without those park-needing and library-needing east and west coast states, Mississippi would still be in the stone age.
Source: https://www.theatlantic.com/business...takers/361668/
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Originally Posted by
bostondawg
No one tell him that those dagum liberals in other states subsidize a ton of Mississippi's programs. Seriously, Mississippi relies on the federal government more than nearly almost every other state. For every dollar that Mississippi sends to the federal government, the fed sends back 3. Without those park-needing and library-needing east and west coast states, Mississippi would still be in the stone age.
Source:
https://www.theatlantic.com/business...takers/361668/
That's very interesting. What the hecks up with South Carolina? That's almost off the charts.
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Originally Posted by
Commercecomet24
That's very interesting. What the hecks up with South Carolina? That's almost off the charts.
I was actually really shocked to see that too. That's unbelievable. There's something really up with South Carolina. That's a problem.
Also Florida is a big problem too. I know I'm calling out Mississippi for getting a 3:1 ratio in dollars from the fed, but the MS economy is small. Florida's is massive. So in absolute dollars, we're talking truckloads of cash used to subsidize Florida. If I had to guess, maybe it's because of all of the old people and Medicare?
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Originally Posted by
bostondawg
I was actually really shocked to see that too. That's unbelievable. There's something really up with South Carolina. That's a problem.
Also Florida is a big problem too. I know I'm calling out Mississippi for getting a 3:1 ratio in dollars from the fed, but the MS economy is small. Florida's is massive. So in absolute dollars, we're talking truckloads of cash used to subsidize Florida. If I had to guess, maybe it's because of all of the old people and Medicare?
A lot of military in Florida
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Originally Posted by
Hasu Dackds
A lot of military in Florida
Good point too. I'm not sure precisely how those dollars are calculated in this chart. For just the generally poor southern states, I think it's just about the poverty rate requiring a lot of food stamps and welfare programs. From the article:
"Another part of the explanation is easier to discern. The reddest states on that map at the top—Mississippi, Alabama, Louisiana, New Mexico, Maine—have exceptionally high poverty rates and thus receive disproportionately large shares of federal dollars. Through a variety of social programs, the federal government disburses hundreds of billions of dollars each year to maintain a “safety net” intended to help the neediest among us. Consider, for example, the percentage of each state’s residents who get “food stamps” through the federal government’s SNAP program. This chart tells the story."
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Originally Posted by
Hasu Dackds
A lot of military in Florida
Big naval presence in CA too. DOD spending always gets thrown out there but SS and Medicaid/care are the biggest expenditures. We need radical reforms there.
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Originally Posted by
Political Hack
Big naval presence in CA too. DOD spending always gets thrown out there but SS and Medicaid/care are the biggest expenditures. We need radical reforms there.
That might take care of itself. Lot of boomers will be dead in 10-20 years
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Originally Posted by
Hasu Dackds
That might take care of itself. Lot of boomers will be dead in 10-20 years
The biggest issue with Medicaid/care is the government is paying $35 each for damn Tylenol. The 17ing overhead on the shit is outrageous. If you get hurt without insurance then you basically hope they don't let you die in the parking lot after they get you "stabilized". Afterwards you then probably have to file bankruptcy because the bill could be $100,000.
SS is screwed from the fact that you work your entire life and then draw $250. It is the biggest damn Ponzi scheme in the world.
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Originally Posted by
Political Hack
Big naval presence in CA too. DOD spending always gets thrown out there but SS and Medicaid/care are the biggest expenditures. We need radical reforms there.
Last time I looked you could throw out everything but entitlements and interest payments and we still run a deficit. That isn't sustainable.
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Originally Posted by
Hasu Dackds
A lot of military in Florida
South Carolina has a lot of military bases along with Paris Island. I don't know if those drive up those Fed dollars but that is still a lot of money going to the state.
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Originally Posted by
Hasu Dackds
A lot of military in Florida
A lot of retirees that vote in Florida is the answer.
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Originally Posted by
IMissJack
A lot of retirees that vote in Florida is the answer.
Yep
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Originally Posted by
Hasu Dackds
A lot of military in Florida
A lot more old people.
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Originally Posted by
bostondawg
I was actually really shocked to see that too. That's unbelievable. There's something really up with South Carolina. That's a problem.
Also Florida is a big problem too. I know I'm calling out Mississippi for getting a 3:1 ratio in dollars from the fed, but the MS economy is small. Florida's is massive. So in absolute dollars, we're talking truckloads of cash used to subsidize Florida. If I had to guess, maybe it's because of all of the old people and Medicare?
One thing you are forgetting some of the lower receiving federal money states have really high state income tax. The states receiving higher amounts of money from the federal goverment have low state income tax. Why does that matter in this case is because State Income Tax is a write off on you Federal Income Tax. It balances out between all the states. Those state with high income rates are getting their money from their citizens and those citizens are getting their money back from the Federal goverment through the tax write off. The States receiving more from the Federal goverment are getting it directly from the Federal Government.
It's how the States get their money from the Federal is the only difference.
However under the new tax bill those state income tax write off are going away but they are doubling the standern deduction. Which suspect will help more people then having itemize write off.
Last edited by Jack Lambert; 11-17-2017 at 02:02 PM.
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Look at the states below the 1 dollar mark and those over it. Can we say DEFICIT
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Originally Posted by
bostondawg
No one tell him that those dagum liberals in other states subsidize a ton of Mississippi's programs. Seriously, Mississippi relies on the federal government more than nearly almost every other state. For every dollar that Mississippi sends to the federal government, the fed sends back 3. Without those park-needing and library-needing east and west coast states, Mississippi would still be in the stone age.
Source:
https://www.theatlantic.com/business...takers/361668/
Why is South Carolina getting so much $$?
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