Is Media Slowly Starting to Figure Out How Good Mullen Has it at MSU?

[WPS]

With Texas A&M going to the SEC, Missouri going to the SEC, & TCU going to the Big 12, Arkansas' recruiting base has been decimated. It is easily the hardest place in the SEC West to win. Arkansas has to go to Dallas, KC, Tulsa, etc to get players. Within the area size of that triangle, MSU recruits it's entire roster.

Since 1990 Ole Miss has been a harder place to win at than MSU as well.

For whatever reason, the media still leans on historical records & not records over the past decade or 20 years. At what point does our success become our history?

We still recruit better than Missouri and TCU. Honestly our Texas recruiting hasn't been what it was in the SWC long before all of that. We still normally have a top 25 class but we aren't going to get any players that A&M or UT want anymore.

[ShotgunDawg]

We still recruit better than Missouri and TCU. Honestly our Texas recruiting hasn't been what it was in the SWC long before all of that. We still normally have a top 25 class but we aren't going to get any players that A&M or UT want anymore.

I agree that you still recruit better than TCU & Missouri, but those program upgrade in status has caused you guys to lose a guy or two a year that you used to get.

Just saying that Arkansas' lack of a local recruiting foot print has made it the hardest job in the SEC West. I'd say it's still better than Kentucky, Vandy, & Mizzou though

[Jack Lambert]

I agree that you still recruit better than TCU & Missouri, but those program upgrade in status has caused you guys to lose a guy or two a year that you used to get.

Just saying that Arkansas' lack of a local recruiting foot print has made it the hardest job in the SEC West. I'd say it's still better than Kentucky, Vandy, & Mizzou though

Arkansas isn't that much smaller then Mississippi and they are the school in that state you would think they could find 25 real good guys out of all their high school each. Not saying your are wrong it just a shame Arkansas can't produce enough talented guys if true.

[ShotgunDawg]

Arkansas isn't that much smaller then Mississippi and they are the school in that state you would think they could find 25 real good guys out of all their high school each. Not saying your are wrong it just a shame Arkansas can't produce enough talented guys if true.

The demographics and football culture are significantly different. Everything west of Little Rock is east TN 2.0 and they lack nearby cities like Memphis, BHam, Mobile, or NO to draw from. It’s apples and oranges compared to us.

[TUSK]

Arkansas isn't that much smaller then Mississippi and they are the school in that state you would think they could find 25 real good guys out of all their high school each. Not saying your are wrong it just a shame Arkansas can't produce enough talented guys if true.

Good points, Jack, however, it depends on "what level" at which one wants to be... eg: if Arkie got the "best 20" out of Arkie, they'd still be a crap program... in small pop states (AL, MS, AR, etc), if ya wanna truly excel, you only want the top 5-10 guys in state... then pilfer elsewhere... pick up 2 in LA, 1 in AR, 1 in MS, etc et al...

My thoughts, anyway....

[bostondawg]

Arkansas isn't that much smaller then Mississippi and they are the school in that state you would think they could find 25 real good guys out of all their high school each. Not saying your are wrong it just a shame Arkansas can't produce enough talented guys if true.

I made a post about this a while back where I looked at the per-school, per-year production rate of of 4/5* talent of each SEC state. Long story short, while having to split talent from Mississippi with TSUN, we're still in a way better recruiting place than Arkansas or Kentucky. Arkansas might be the only school in the state, but the state produces little talent. That isn't to be confused with LSU, a school that's the only in its state which does produce a lot of talent. LSU has a huge advantage over us. But we're still in a better place than Arky.

[Spiderman]

We still recruit better than Missouri and TCU. Honestly our Texas recruiting hasn't been what it was in the SWC long before all of that. We still normally have a top 25 class but we aren't going to get any players that A&M or UT want anymore.

Doesn't look like yall recruit any where near as well as TCU the last few years to me

[WPS]

Doesn't look like yall recruit any where near as well as TCU the last few years to me

Depends how much stock you want to put into recruiting service rankings. Hard to judge since we have one of the worst coaches in our history while they have the best coach in theirs lol.

They definitely have a lot more speed than we do though, but we beat them last year.