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    the 3-4 ... The great Equalizer....

    The 3-4 is a harder defense to learn. You all should this from when we made that transition. The most effected is the LBs. Bama will be playing with 2 true freshmen and without the man who communicates on the field.

    What does that mean? Busted assignments mean to the house runs and wide open TEs. I don't care if they are 4 stars or 5 stars, the schemes of a 3-4 will not help in understanding every assignment.

    Now throw in the fact that MSU runs the spread. It's one of the hardest to defend when you have an effective runner at the QB and RBs that always go forward.

    I'm not so sure we couldn't simply .... GRIND on them the whole game and win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach View Post
    The 3-4 is a harder defense to learn. You all should this from when we made that transition. The most effected is the LBs. Bama will be playing with 2 true freshmen and without the man who communicates on the field.

    What does that mean? Busted assignments mean to the house runs and wide open TEs. I don't care if they are 4 stars or 5 stars, the schemes of a 3-4 will not help in understanding every assignment.

    Now throw in the fact that MSU runs the spread. It's one of the hardest to defend when you have an effective runner at the QB and RBs that always go forward.

    I'm not so sure we couldn't simply .... GRIND on them the whole game and win.
    Good luck

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    The problem is they are going to have nine guys in the box and their freshmen are all 4-5 star talents. We aren't going to be able to be balanced enough to beat them. I'm sorry. Like I said- we lost this game 3-5 years ago when we failed to recruit any legit outside WR's.

    It sucks, but at least we have Couch and Todd who are young and promising and more guys like Guidry and Heath on the way so maybe we can get them in 2019.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    The problem is they are going to have nine guys in the box and their freshmen are all 4-5 star talents. We aren't going to be able to be balanced enough to beat them. I'm sorry. Like I said- we lost this game 3-5 years ago when we failed to recruit any legit outside WR's.

    It sucks, but at least we have Couch and Todd who are young and promising and more guys like Guidry and Heath on the way so maybe we can get them in 2019.
    We have some guys that can hurt them and anyone else we play for that matter at WR, but they are going to need help. Play action and help from the D.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB**** View Post
    We have some guys that can hurt them and anyone else we play for that matter at WR, but they are going to need help. Play action and help from the D.
    After this week we play the two worst rushing defenses in the SEC and neither of them are great against the pass either. As long as we don't sustain massive injuries against Bama we should put up some really big numbers on offense and make some positive strides going into bowl season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    After this week we play the two worst rushing defenses in the SEC and neither of them are great against the pass either. As long as we don't sustain massive injuries against Bama we should put up some really big numbers on offense and make some positive strides going into bowl season.
    Agreed. We might rush for 600 yards those 2 games combined

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    The problem is they are going to have nine guys in the box and their freshmen are all 4-5 star talents. We aren't going to be able to be balanced enough to beat them. I'm sorry. Like I said- we lost this game 3-5 years ago when we failed to recruit any legit outside WR's.

    It sucks, but at least we have Couch and Todd who are young and promising and more guys like Guidry and Heath on the way so maybe we can get them in 2019.
    They won't have 9 in the box. Having a freshmen playing in a 3-4 like Bama's is a weakness due to having to know the system. I don't care if they are a super 6 star. If you don't know the defenses, you are going to be out of position. I will take a Jordan Thomas slamming on a LB that's a freshman with little to no game time ANYDAY!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach View Post
    They won't have 9 in the box. Having a freshmen playing in a 3-4 like Bama's is a weakness due to having to know the system. I don't care if they are a super 6 star. If you don't know the defenses, you are going to be out of position. I will take a Jordan Thomas slamming on a LB that's a freshman with little to no game time ANYDAY!
    If Saban doesn't put 9 in the box against us it's a mistake on his part. I don't think he will make that mistake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    If Saban doesn't put 9 in the box against us it's a mistake on his part. I don't think he will make that mistake.
    9 in the box vs a spread offense is suicide.
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    Minkah has been practicing all week and should play.

    When we are in the true 3-4 (regular) we will only have one true freshman in the game at a given time. The other sub (now starter) is Keith Holcombe in the middle, and he's got a ton of game experience and started a few games already this season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach View Post
    9 in the box vs a spread offense is suicide.
    This. No freaking way they would leave themselves that exposed.

    If they do, we should just throw 30 straight jump ball down the field.

    It’s gonna take us having a RAT at WR to win this game.

    Todd, Couch etc will have to make plays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Token Bammer View Post
    Minkah has been practicing all week and should play.

    When we are in the true 3-4 (regular) we will only have one true freshman in the game at a given time. The other sub (now starter) is Keith Holcombe in the middle, and he's got a ton of game experience and started a few games already this season.

    I just don’t see how Minkah will be 100%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    The problem is they are going to have nine guys in the box and their freshmen are all 4-5 star talents. We aren't going to be able to be balanced enough to beat them. I'm sorry. Like I said- we lost this game 3-5 years ago when we failed to recruit any legit outside WR's.

    It sucks, but at least we have Couch and Todd who are young and promising and more guys like Guidry and Heath on the way so maybe we can get them in 2019.
    THIS....EXACTLY!! The coaches saw this happening and did little to prevent it. Oh well...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    I just don’t see how Minkah will be 100%.
    I don't think he'll be 100%, but Minkah at 80-90% is better than most. Play this week, rest next week against Mercer to get ready for da barn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    I just don’t see how Minkah will be 100%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    If Saban doesn't put 9 in the box against us it's a mistake on his part. I don't think he will make that mistake.
    We'll score at will if this happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Token Bammer View Post
    I don't think he'll be 100%, but Minkah at 80-90% is better than most. Play this week, rest next week against Mercer to get ready for da barn.
    If he plays, he won't even be at 80%. Nobody bounces back from hamstring injuries this fast.

    I don't think he's going to play because there's too much risk in losing him for the season when he can just sit out and get healthy for the SECC and bowl game(s). If he does play, Mullen should go at him all day because he's going to be limited.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Token Bammer View Post
    I don't think he'll be 100%, but Minkah at 80-90% is better than most. Play this week, rest next week against Mercer to get ready for da barn.
    IDK mane.

    If it's really a hamstring issue, I just don't see him being 80-90%. Hamstrings are a sumbitch

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    They are going to lock up man and commit 6 to the box with a 7th ready to roll down at times. They have also hurt us with the worst blitz in football- the CB blitz. They do it from the short side of the field when we are on the hash. There wont be much we can do about it.

    I'll be surprised if we make it to 10 points- c'mon defensive TD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    They are going to lock up man and commit 6 to the box with a 7th ready to roll down at times. They have also hurt us with the worst blitz in football- the CB blitz. They do it from the short side of the field when we are on the hash. They wont be much we can do about it.

    I'll be surprised if we make it to 10 points- c'mon defensive TD
    Yup.

    The goal for every MSU fan should be 17 points in this game. If we can get to 17 points, I give us a 40% chance of winning, which is really good if you think about it.

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