Pawl Wants Dan....in a coaching way @ UT

[Commercecomet24]

If TN is such a great ****ing job how come the last three coaches they were able to attract are Lane Kiffin, Derek Dooley, and Butch Jones?

Exactly! They think they are bama but they aint.

[Bucky Dog]

Since 2009 the records are:

MSU 61-42

UT 53-48

Not including this year and we play in the SEC West. Now you tell me who the better program is now and not in the past or based on fan support and shit. All that doesn’t mean shit in the grand scheme of things because your school and alumni are rich and big!!!

[TUSK]

Here’s a DYK....

Tennessee’s offense has scored 9 points in their last 14 quarters (3.5 games) of play (3 FGs, 0 TDS)...

[Commercecomet24]

Here’s a DYK....

Tennessee’s offense has scored 9 points in their last 14 quarters (3.5 games) of play (3 FGs, 0 TDS)...

They haven?t scored a td on offense since September 23. That?s brutal

[Hasu Dackds]

Exactly! They think they are bama but they aint.

Bama wasn't crap before Saban. Remember that. Exact same situation as Tennessee.

The only difference is the lack of in-state talent in Tennessee. I'm not sure that matters. They and Nebraska are going to be interesting case studies moving forward. If they blow this hire, they might not ever get back.

[Hasu Dackds]

There is not much money at TN

You have lost your GD mind

[chainedup_Dawg]

Since 2009 the records are:

MSU 61-42

UT 53-48

Not including this year and we play in the SEC West. Now you tell me who the better program is now and not in the past or based on fan support and shit. All that doesn?t mean shit in the grand scheme of things because your school and alumni are rich and big!!!

Exactly. Consider that the East has sucked ass in that time frame and being in the East is essentially worth 2 more wins per year. Extrapolate that over that time frame and subtract it from TN and they are under .500 as a program the last 8 years

[basedog]

Bama wasn't crap before Saban. Remember that. Exact same situation as Tennessee.

The only difference is the lack of in-state talent in Tennessee. I'm not sure that matters. They and Nebraska are going to be interesting case studies moving forward. If they blow this hire, they might not ever get back.

Wut? Did you forget ***

"Bama wasn't crap before Saban"?

[TUSK]

You have lost your GD mind

Yeah, the “UT can’t afford, blah, blah, blah” amuses me.

They may suck ass, but it’s still a big time program re: $..

[Johnson85]

Bama wasn't crap before Saban. Remember that. Exact same situation as Tennessee.

The only difference is the lack of in-state talent in Tennessee. I'm not sure that matters. They and Nebraska are going to be interesting case studies moving forward. If they blow this hire, they might not ever get back.

I'm more bullish on Nebraska than UT. Nebraska doesn't have a great natural recruiting footprint, but it's better than UT's. If you look at natural advantages, is out UT behind Florida, Uga, and even slightly behind USCe in the east.

[Commercecomet24]

Yeah, the “UT can’t afford, blah, blah, blah” amuses me.

They may suck ass, but it’s still a big time program re: $..

They got plenty of money but the athletic dept has been poorly managed.

[TUSK]

Wut? Did you forget ***

"Bama wasn't crap before Saban"?

He meant 00-06. I think.

[TUSK]

They got plenty of money but the athletic dept has been poorly managed.

Management can change almost overnight. The things that UT does have going for it take much, much longer.

[TUSK]

I’ll add one other tidbit on the Coondogs:

They are an “average” hire away from being a regular ~9-10 win program.

[Commercecomet24]

Management can change almost overnight. The things that UT does have going for it take much, much longer.

It can but they have been really inept for awhile now and haven?t shown an inkling at change. Money doesn?t always fix everything.

[Commercecomet24]

I’ll add one other tidbit on the Coondogs:

They are an “average” hire away from being a regular ~9-10 win program.

Butch was an ?average? hire.

[ShotgunDawg]

Bama wasn't crap before Saban. Remember that. Exact same situation as Tennessee.

The only difference is the lack of in-state talent in Tennessee. I'm not sure that matters. They and Nebraska are going to be interesting case studies moving forward. If they blow this hire, they might not ever get back.

They lack instate talent but they still recruit fairly well.

Tennessee’s 5 year recruiting average is 15th and MSU’s is 24th.

They aren’t an elite recruiter anymore.

[ShotgunDawg]

I?ll add one other tidbit on the Coondogs:

They are an ?average? hire away from being a regular ~9-10 win program.

Depends on who they draw from the West.

Bama and UGA should be losses for the foreseeable future, and Florida is an average hire from being better due to more local talent resources.

If they draw any SEC West team other than Arkansas or OM over the next 5 years, they really are only a 8-9 win program.

[basedog]

I’ll add one other tidbit on the Coondogs:

They are an “average” hire away from being a regular ~9-10 win program.

Tusk, average you say want be a 9-10 win program. Where is this "average hire" you speak?

I will say it again, Tn and TSUN have a lot in common, living in the past!

[BrunswickDawg]

Butch was an ?average? hire.

At the time, Kiffin was considered a home run hire. He was everything Fat Phil wasn?t - young, hard recruiter, coming off a helluva run at USC, considered an offensive prodigy, and was going to bring his Dad and his super defense with him.

That went well.

And you are right - Butch was supposed to be a home run too. Turns out he could only win with Dooley recruits.